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MrCoffee

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5. How could you read those four statements and NOT come to a negative conclusion?
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 04:15 PM
Feb 2012

Elizabeth Warren - "our long national mortgage nightmare". She really didn't say that, did she?

Dean Baker - "I’m not thrilled with the settlement, since it doesn’t accomplish much" and the big kicker "In terms of the commitment of payments in the form of write-downs, we don’t have a clear counterfactual that allows us to gage how much would have been written down anyhow. We also have the peculiar situation where the banks get to pay the penalty with write-downs of debts to MBS investors."
- Do you understand what he's saying? This is important. He's telling us exactly how we're getting screwed with this settlement. He's saying that this isn't really helping homeowners, since teh banks would have written down some of the mortgages anyway. And, the real kick in the crotch, the banks get to pay for the write-downs by issuing new debt obligations to mortgage-backed securities investors. The $20 billion is a scam, pure and simple. It's a handout to the banks to let them clean up their balance sheets.

Ira Rheingold - "it doesn’t do nearly enough to solve the problem" - the problem still exists. Ira's hopeful that maybe it won't be such a big problem in the future, but maybe the banks learned something here. OK.

Karen Nussbaum - "We were hoping for much more. This is like pocket change." and "this just doesn’t add up to the kind of relief that people actually need to stay in their homes.”

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summary of the 4 people quoted in the OP - crappy settlement nt msongs Feb 2012 #1
Or if you're not a pessimist.. Tepid settlement, with lots of silver linings. A good start. tridim Feb 2012 #2
I only read the actual words lol nt msongs Feb 2012 #4
How could you read those four statements and NOT come to a negative conclusion? MrCoffee Feb 2012 #5
Because I didn't do what you just did and cherry pick the negative and ignore the positive. tridim Feb 2012 #8
Point out the positive. Not the pie-in-the-sky hopes and dreams, the concrete positive. MrCoffee Feb 2012 #10
Jared Bernstein's assessment is also good. n/t ProSense Feb 2012 #3
No, it's just a lot of wishful thinking and hopeful nonsense. MrCoffee Feb 2012 #6
That's what I was talking about, blind pessimism. tridim Feb 2012 #7
Where's the positive in Bernstein's statement? MrCoffee Feb 2012 #9
The positive is clearly stated in the two paragraphs you stripped out of his statement tridim Feb 2012 #11
I directly quoted exactly what ProSense quoted of his statement MrCoffee Feb 2012 #12
Prosense didn't quote anything from Bernstein's statement in the OP. tridim Feb 2012 #13
Now you're just messing with me MrCoffee Feb 2012 #14
"Jared Bernstein's assessment is also good. n/t" tridim Feb 2012 #15
Still waiting for the positives MrCoffee Feb 2012 #16
Check your copy queue, it's probably still in there. tridim Feb 2012 #19
Reading is fundamental MrCoffee Feb 2012 #20
I already read it. Saw the postives, saw the negatives. tridim Feb 2012 #21
So you don't care to point out the positives? MrCoffee Feb 2012 #22
Read his statement, you'll see the postives. Don't worry, they are very concise paragraphs. tridim Feb 2012 #23
Aaaannnnddd....scene MrCoffee Feb 2012 #24
In case you were wondering, now I'm fucking with you. tridim Feb 2012 #25
They want more justice Rex Feb 2012 #17
Yabut, what about Joe the Plumber's opinion? Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #18
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