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29. The only thing that motivates Capitalists to do it right

Sat May 25, 2013, 03:43 AM

May 2013

...is to have Socialists gaining in the polls.

In 2001 a reporter asked Jimmy Carter what it was like to be the last Liberal in America. Don't recall the response, but the question and the attitude illustrates why Liberalism (as we Americans know it) cannot exist without a radical element on its flank.

Here in the 21st century, the only "capitalist" systems worth a hill of beans to their people are the ones that form liberal-socialist alliances. Outside the US, these systems are called "mixed economies" or social democracies.

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"Number Of Liberal Americans Growing, Number Of Conservatives Dropping, Says Gallup" [View all] applegrove May 2013 OP

The word 'LIBERAL' is back too!!! applegrove May 2013 #1

+1 Politicub May 2013 #13

Hooray!! PennsylvaniaMatt May 2013 #18

Yes, we allowed them to trash the word liberalmike27 May 2013 #42

I dislike the word progressive too, for the same reason. CrispyQ May 2013 #52

Who was the two-bit actor? thesquanderer May 2013 #59

Yeah, liberals let a guy who said that ketchup is a vegetable, mock them. CrispyQ May 2013 #63

Don't forget those stinking polluting trees! The chimp was a better actor. nt Mnemosyne May 2013 #91

Certainly more entertaining! CrispyQ May 2013 #92

I actually meant Bonzo, but certainly understand the confusion! Mnemosyne May 2013 #93

Confusion? Confucius? CrispyQ May 2013 #96

I got lost at dubyaspeak! Wow, so many things I'd forgotten. That war criminal really, really needs Mnemosyne May 2013 #100

I thought it was GHWBush caseymoz May 2013 #101

Ironically, it's conservatives who have poisoned the word "conservative" as well. Courtesy Flush May 2013 #44

I love the irony PatSeg May 2013 #50

~lol. CrispyQ May 2013 #53

Haha, good point! nt City Lights May 2013 #55

manners Chaco Dundee May 2013 #90

Never forget: freshwest May 2013 #57

Reminds me of another recent graphic I saw thesquanderer May 2013 #58

Your criticism is duly noted, but nonetheless, it is from Roget's: freshwest May 2013 #66

Your proof is in your links. thesquanderer May 2013 #68

No, the proof is in the source, Roget's Thesaurus: freshwest May 2013 #75

Conservatives were decrying the dictionary as having a "liberal bias" a few years back. Marr May 2013 #69

The poster above you appears similarly offended. I'm giving him the liberal source but it won't help freshwest May 2013 #73

Some of us ha e never forsaken the word and Skidmore May 2013 #32

that is right iwillalwayswonderwhy May 2013 #78

Not A Dirty Word - Yeah otohara May 2013 #2

In part, thank the Tea-publicans ... earthside May 2013 #3

Their desperation will bury them. grasswire May 2013 #4

The biggest increase in gun owners in the last 2 years is among Eleanors38 May 2013 #17

Tealiban will have to work even harder to suppress liberal votes. n/ t Triana May 2013 #5

Extremists like that Fox reporter calling for violence Ilsa May 2013 #6

I believe she's a talk show host for America's hate radio airwaves. eom BlueCaliDem May 2013 #65

I read a lot of obituaries about people whom I knew. The old conservatives are dying, folks. I also AlinPA May 2013 #7

True liberalmike27 May 2013 #43

Can you document that myth? bvar22 May 2013 #70

Really, where does he pull that jive from? My first vote was for McGovern in 1972 xtraxritical May 2013 #79

Probably from personal experience. ..... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #86

Hippie is a generic term meaning little. xtraxritical May 2013 #94

There were many movements that "Came Together" in the late 60s and early 70s. bvar22 May 2013 #95

Well I still think that these types of "self identifying" polls are mostly useless... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #8

I couldn't agree more, the third way deceptively uses "self Identification polls" Dragonfli May 2013 #26

After some reflection... WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2013 #31

You're probably right...... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #41

..but they are identifying with the "New Left", as defined by the... bvar22 May 2013 #74

But that still means they are moving left........ socialist_n_TN May 2013 #84

No. It merely means they have designated the "Center-Right" as the "New Left" bvar22 May 2013 #88

And that's why I've said that self-identification polls are mostly useless..... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #89

I guess we agree. bvar22 May 2013 #98

So in other words, only DU'ers can define who is a "True Liberal"? emulatorloo May 2013 #51

Call yourself whatever you want........ socialist_n_TN May 2013 #83

I always try to send people to politicalcompass.org truebluegreen May 2013 #82

I would feel better if Gallup had gotten anything right the past 10 years. BlueStreak May 2013 #9

Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" awards rocktivity May 2013 #10

Well, perhaps libdude May 2013 #11

Now your talking, Socialism is the most ethical of all positions. xtraxritical May 2013 #80

For some reason I find myself agreeing with you here...... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #87

Bad news for the Third Way and the GOP AgingAmerican May 2013 #12

I hate to ask but...What is the Third Way? Auntie Bush May 2013 #14

A VERY influential group that identify as Democractic, BUT....... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #15

So. You influence someone by making insulting comparisons. How utterly brilliant, NOT!! bluestate10 May 2013 #24

The only thing that motivates Capitalists to do it right cprise May 2013 #29

And their comparisons of FDR Dems (which I'm definitely NOT BTW)... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #35

And another thing...... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #36

+1000000 woo me with science May 2013 #56

Seems like Socalist n TN is entitled to a Zenger defense. Chan790 May 2013 #37

Thanks Chan, I like that........ socialist_n_TN May 2013 #39

Despicable people deserve our hatred liberalmike27 May 2013 #45

Excellent description Dragonfli May 2013 #27

Yep-- I remember Clinton proudly calling himself an "economic conservative" when Marr May 2013 #38

Thanks for the explanation. I always wanted to ask but never had the stones. xtraxritical May 2013 #81

Don't feel bad davidthegnome May 2013 #16

Why guess? Read all about it, starting with the Board of Trustees... WorseBeforeBetter May 2013 #21

Huh. davidthegnome May 2013 #22

And proud of it Dragonfli May 2013 #28

Seriously? WorseBeforeBetter May 2013 #20

Anyone who doesn't kiss the ass of Michael Moore, Ralph Nader & Julian...... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #62

Moderate Democrats, basically. Jamaal510 May 2013 #99

Imagine that..Good, some Logic! Cha May 2013 #19

I credit the Republicans for helping me to embrace the term 'Liberal'. Aristus May 2013 #23

+++ marions ghost May 2013 #33

And that'll keep happening as the right wing "ideology" gets wackier and off the rails. nt alp227 May 2013 #25

Fox News and Limbaugh are working! WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2013 #30

Agreed... hoosierlib May 2013 #34

If TEA PARTY people scare you liberalmike27 May 2013 #46

I think he helps the *Democratic Party* immensely, but he's horrible for liberals. Marr May 2013 #72

Every political affiliation is rising, except conservatives who is dropping. davidn3600 May 2013 #40

Now, "if we can only shrink the GOP to a size that it can be drowned in a bathtub" vkkv May 2013 #47

Love the news but weary of gallup after last year's Presidential race polls nt. BenzoDia May 2013 #48

Hallelujah! The vaccine seems to be working. (Graphic, pic heavy expose of conservatism) Zorra May 2013 #49

Woohoo!!! Good news!!! Initech May 2013 #54

Liberal +10, Conservative -10, Moderate Unchanged Dawson Leery May 2013 #60

But 35% say they're conservative? 32% moderate. DevonRex May 2013 #61

Is this the same Gallup... burnodo May 2013 #64

Yeh, but since it's usually biased towards conservatives, these stats are probably Zorra May 2013 #77

They call us starry eyed idealists and bleading heart liberals olddots May 2013 #67

I wonder how much of this has to do with changing attitudes toward homosexuals. Marr May 2013 #71

I think it sways a lot of people Bonx May 2013 #106

All this poll shows is that the word "Liberal" is more acceptable in mixed company. bvar22 May 2013 #76

Like I always say this country for the most part is liberal. Lobo27 May 2013 #85

Not Fast Enough... B Stieg May 2013 #97

Good news! Kath1 May 2013 #102

My conservative (read fuxgnus) tavernier May 2013 #103

"Liberalism" keeps getting shoved to the Right, watered down beyond meaning, so yeah, blkmusclmachine May 2013 #104

Who with half a brain? another_liberal May 2013 #105

Be still, my heart. IrishAyes May 2013 #107