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Warpy

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54. Except the problem is not with men in this case, it's with Hollywood

Sat May 25, 2013, 05:30 PM

May 2013

For too many decades, male actors have been cartoon characters in action films or bumbling antiheroes in chick flicks. There really hasn't been room for charming male actors in much of anything Hollywood has produced for many years, probably due to their enthusiasm for paying CGI people and their deep reluctance toward paying witty writers.

Similar articles written about women always put the blame on women and that's the difference.

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The Rise and Fall of Charm in American Men [View all] xchrom May 2013 OP

Let me just put this out there... Democracyinkind May 2013 #1

Attractive, but not particularly charming. WorseBeforeBetter May 2013 #83

Whenever this same type of article is written about women, Quantess May 2013 #2

Charmer or bullshit artist? MattBaggins May 2013 #15

Except the problem is not with men in this case, it's with Hollywood Warpy May 2013 #54

George Clooney alright...... A HERETIC I AM May 2013 #3

i guess you never met me datasuspect May 2013 #4

Mind sweeping that up? It's sticky. n/t A HERETIC I AM May 2013 #5

I WILL KICK CHARM-SECRETING DATASUSPECT ASS Skittles May 2013 #78

I know this is mostly about movie stars but I would say that Obama is a charming man. CTyankee May 2013 #6

I thought EXACTLY the same thing! n/t dorkzilla May 2013 #7

Say rather, manipulative without the GOP grossness Demeter May 2013 #9

I think there are other ingredients to "charm." CTyankee May 2013 #10

I agree. It is those "other ingredients" that I find lacking in ALL Modern-day Politicians Demeter May 2013 #11

Harrison Ford, Leonard Nimoy, Martin Landau Demeter May 2013 #8

indeed. xchrom May 2013 #12

Morning, X! I think this is charming... Demeter May 2013 #13

! xchrom May 2013 #14

I attribute it to a lack of suits. svpadgham May 2013 #16

i actually think there is something to that notion. nt xchrom May 2013 #18

Remember to always insert "American" before "men" in this article. Divernan May 2013 #17

I'll wager just about every generation thinks they can say something like this mythology May 2013 #20

Your simplistic response to a nuanced article is telling. Divernan May 2013 #25

That last paragraph you copied from the article was the one that hit me hardest -- just Nay May 2013 #30

Exactly - many men are incapable of comprehending a non-sexual, social interaction w/ a woman! Divernan May 2013 #33

"see women as sexual objects and projects that attitude upon women" loyalsister May 2013 #40

That's rather sad, I think Divernan May 2013 #45

I don't think that is entirely gone loyalsister May 2013 #46

good comment, good pick out. Whisp May 2013 #34

You give an excellent example of what we're discussing. Divernan May 2013 #42

Right - Europeans have charm; we have a rape culture. closeupready May 2013 #63

Kids today are less well-behaved, men are less manly, and women are less classy. Marr May 2013 #19

Oh, this age! How tasteless and ill-bred it is! -- Catullus (87-54 B.C.) alterfurz May 2013 #73

JFK had charm. ananda May 2013 #21

I think his son did too. n/t BuelahWitch May 2013 #36

I can verify this. mahina May 2013 #76

There are way too many portrayals in the media of man being mean and dumb Lydia Leftcoast May 2013 #22

The Rise and Fall of Charmin - American Men pintobean May 2013 #23

Yup and I blame Adam Savage for whistler162 May 2013 #60

Don't blame the actors, blame the writers and directors... hughee99 May 2013 #24

Well we ARE talking all about fiction media Populist_Prole May 2013 #26

Make believe... loyalsister May 2013 #43

There are a few charming men around jcboon May 2013 #27

Snoop dog????!!!!!! Nooooooo SummerSnow May 2013 #72

I won't deny most men have been Shankapotomus May 2013 #28

"Most men" are "drooling, knuckle dragging Neanderthals." Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #38

I'm sorry Shankapotomus May 2013 #39

"most men have been programmed to be.... " where do you live? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #47

Everybody online says that to me Shankapotomus May 2013 #52

Could be. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #53

I can't even imaging what would happen if anyone typed up the 'most women' counterpart to this. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #69

Perhaps more accurately Shankapotomus May 2013 #74

There never was an American Cary Grant BeyondGeography May 2013 #29

I was going to say that Colin Firth is rather charming BuelahWitch May 2013 #31

Anthony Hopkins for me. Whisp May 2013 #35

Yeesh. They must have really been scraping for something to fill column inches, to winter is coming May 2013 #32

The last truly charming man I met was in his 80s BainsBane May 2013 #37

You described a charming man perfectly. Divernan May 2013 #44

Is there an equal to William Holden in the 21st Century? mahatmakanejeeves May 2013 #41

People can't drink like that anymore. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #48

Zach Gallifinakis. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #49

Zach or George Clooney? BainsBane May 2013 #56

Steve Buscemi. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #62

I didn't recognize him BainsBane May 2013 #64

Heh. No one does clammy-creepy like Michael Shannon. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #68

An interesting piece. DirkGently May 2013 #50

WHAT is so FUCKING CHARMING about George Clooney? Uzair May 2013 #51

He comes across as well-mannered, cultured, and someone who knows how to... WorseBeforeBetter May 2013 #85

the replies to this are a hoot! galileoreloaded May 2013 #55

Socially inept replies on the internets.. Fumesucker May 2013 #81

William Powell was very charming BainsBane May 2013 #57

I don't see Clooney as charming in that same way flamingdem May 2013 #58

get in line, sister. Whisp May 2013 #61

I met him once, and you nailed it. He is very witty and sweet. He had his arm around me for awhile bettyellen May 2013 #77

i hate choo!!! Whisp May 2013 #79

do I have to photobucket and link it? Remind me one of these days. bettyellen May 2013 #84

damn, I'm jealous. BainsBane May 2013 #82

Yup... compared to Wallace Berry whistler162 May 2013 #59

Patrick Dempsey phylny May 2013 #65

I think the Brits are leaving the Americans behind. Cleita May 2013 #66

Some pretty crazed material here. Cary Grant's characters being compared to actual men. Crazy. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #67

We went from Cary Grant to Marlin Brando olddots May 2013 #70

Hey, I'm waaay more charming than that pig Arnold Ziffell. nt rrneck May 2013 #71

omg you made me howl with laughter. Whisp May 2013 #80

The author never met my son, brother, or Dad, all charming and real gentlemen. mahina May 2013 #75