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In reply to the discussion: The Rise and Fall of Charm in American Men [View all]Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)67. Some pretty crazed material here. Cary Grant's characters being compared to actual men. Crazy.
Grant was a very interesting man, who by his own admission was verbally and physically abusive to women until he underwent therapy and changes he attributed to his use of LSD having taught him a few things.
So the real man Grant was hitting women while his on screen performances were being made which this article uses to say actual men are not charming.
Grant later spoke at length about these things, which really is charming in that he was honest about how he'd been and the importance of personal growth even when one his handsome, famous, rich and given constant praise. He was fairly amazing really.
I find it odd how many in the tread and this author confuse actors and their roles.
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I know this is mostly about movie stars but I would say that Obama is a charming man.
CTyankee
May 2013
#6
I agree. It is those "other ingredients" that I find lacking in ALL Modern-day Politicians
Demeter
May 2013
#11
I'll wager just about every generation thinks they can say something like this
mythology
May 2013
#20
That last paragraph you copied from the article was the one that hit me hardest -- just
Nay
May 2013
#30
Exactly - many men are incapable of comprehending a non-sexual, social interaction w/ a woman!
Divernan
May 2013
#33
There are way too many portrayals in the media of man being mean and dumb
Lydia Leftcoast
May 2013
#22
I can't even imaging what would happen if anyone typed up the 'most women' counterpart to this.
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#69
Yeesh. They must have really been scraping for something to fill column inches, to
winter is coming
May 2013
#32
He comes across as well-mannered, cultured, and someone who knows how to...
WorseBeforeBetter
May 2013
#85
I met him once, and you nailed it. He is very witty and sweet. He had his arm around me for awhile
bettyellen
May 2013
#77
Some pretty crazed material here. Cary Grant's characters being compared to actual men. Crazy.
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#67