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MrCoffee

(24,159 posts)
9. Where's the positive in Bernstein's statement?
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 05:43 PM
Feb 2012
Here’s what’s unique, useful and potentially important about the settlement: One of the main reasons the measures we’ve tried so far have underwhelmed is because they’ve all been voluntary from the perspective of lenders and servicers. No bank had to play along with HAMP or HARP. They had a choice of whether to respond to the incentives in the programs or not, and often it was “no thanks.” (By the way, that’s why I always liked the cramdown option — moves locus of action from solely being in the lenders’ hands.)

But the five banks named in the settlement must now set up processes to do refis and principal reductions. They don’t have a choice. And that’s a real advance.Who knows, with these processes in place, we can even dare to hope that the $17 billion, which is expected to be leveraged up to about twice that amount (i.e., banks are expected to provide a dollar of foreclosure prevention for $0.50 from the settlement fund) will be testing the waters for a deeper dive into mortgage modifications.”


Where's the positive there?

-Banks set up the processes to do the write-downs and refis. They get $20 billion in funny money to do this, and will finance it through institutional investors and Fannie/Freddie
-Dare to hope that the $17 billion is leveraged up. There's an equally valid chance that we're overpaying. From yet another Prosense link

In terms of the commitment of payments in the form of write-downs, we don’t have a clear counterfactual that allows us to gage how much would have been written down anyhow. We also have the peculiar situation where the banks get to pay the penalty with write-downs of debts to MBS investors.


Again, where's the positive there?

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summary of the 4 people quoted in the OP - crappy settlement nt msongs Feb 2012 #1
Or if you're not a pessimist.. Tepid settlement, with lots of silver linings. A good start. tridim Feb 2012 #2
I only read the actual words lol nt msongs Feb 2012 #4
How could you read those four statements and NOT come to a negative conclusion? MrCoffee Feb 2012 #5
Because I didn't do what you just did and cherry pick the negative and ignore the positive. tridim Feb 2012 #8
Point out the positive. Not the pie-in-the-sky hopes and dreams, the concrete positive. MrCoffee Feb 2012 #10
Jared Bernstein's assessment is also good. n/t ProSense Feb 2012 #3
No, it's just a lot of wishful thinking and hopeful nonsense. MrCoffee Feb 2012 #6
That's what I was talking about, blind pessimism. tridim Feb 2012 #7
Where's the positive in Bernstein's statement? MrCoffee Feb 2012 #9
The positive is clearly stated in the two paragraphs you stripped out of his statement tridim Feb 2012 #11
I directly quoted exactly what ProSense quoted of his statement MrCoffee Feb 2012 #12
Prosense didn't quote anything from Bernstein's statement in the OP. tridim Feb 2012 #13
Now you're just messing with me MrCoffee Feb 2012 #14
"Jared Bernstein's assessment is also good. n/t" tridim Feb 2012 #15
Still waiting for the positives MrCoffee Feb 2012 #16
Check your copy queue, it's probably still in there. tridim Feb 2012 #19
Reading is fundamental MrCoffee Feb 2012 #20
I already read it. Saw the postives, saw the negatives. tridim Feb 2012 #21
So you don't care to point out the positives? MrCoffee Feb 2012 #22
Read his statement, you'll see the postives. Don't worry, they are very concise paragraphs. tridim Feb 2012 #23
Aaaannnnddd....scene MrCoffee Feb 2012 #24
In case you were wondering, now I'm fucking with you. tridim Feb 2012 #25
They want more justice Rex Feb 2012 #17
Yabut, what about Joe the Plumber's opinion? Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #18
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