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In reply to the discussion: "That Woman Is WORTH Paying Attention To": Medea Benjamin Explains WHY She DISRUPTED Obama’s Speech [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)68. Actually,
"The ACLU and Amnesty International agree with her."
...the Amnesty and the ACLU did not claim the son was a target in their statements. What's the purpose of trying to create the impression that the son was a target?
USA: Amnesty International Responds to President Obama's Speech on National Security
President Obama was right to reaffirm the need to close Guantanamo, address the need for greater transparency, and acknowledge the troubling issues surrounding his killer drone program. Now it's time for him to take immediate and further action and get the job done.
Transfers can and must resume today, and all detainees must either be fairly tried in federal court or released. President Obama was right not to endorse the concept of indefinite detention, but his proposal to restart unfair military commissions in the mainland U.S. should be rejected as both unlawful and unnecessary.
What's needed on drones is not a "kill court," but critically, much more transparency regarding the legal basis for the drones program, including the release of the newly approved presidential guidance as well as independent investigations of alleged extrajudicial executions and remedy for victims.
There's no need to wait to repeal the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force. The Obama administration should immediately end reliance on the flawed "global war" legal theory at the heart of indefinite detention, military commissions and the killing of terror suspects and civilians alike.
Congress must stop hindering reform. Elected officials should repeal the remaining legislative obstacles to closing the detention facility and make the Senate report on CIA torture public.
President Obama is right that the country is at a crossroads. It's time for the path not chosen over a decade ago. It's time for human rights.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/usa-amnesty-international-responds-president-obamas-speech-national-securit
President Obama was right to reaffirm the need to close Guantanamo, address the need for greater transparency, and acknowledge the troubling issues surrounding his killer drone program. Now it's time for him to take immediate and further action and get the job done.
Transfers can and must resume today, and all detainees must either be fairly tried in federal court or released. President Obama was right not to endorse the concept of indefinite detention, but his proposal to restart unfair military commissions in the mainland U.S. should be rejected as both unlawful and unnecessary.
What's needed on drones is not a "kill court," but critically, much more transparency regarding the legal basis for the drones program, including the release of the newly approved presidential guidance as well as independent investigations of alleged extrajudicial executions and remedy for victims.
There's no need to wait to repeal the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force. The Obama administration should immediately end reliance on the flawed "global war" legal theory at the heart of indefinite detention, military commissions and the killing of terror suspects and civilians alike.
Congress must stop hindering reform. Elected officials should repeal the remaining legislative obstacles to closing the detention facility and make the Senate report on CIA torture public.
President Obama is right that the country is at a crossroads. It's time for the path not chosen over a decade ago. It's time for human rights.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/usa-amnesty-international-responds-president-obamas-speech-national-securit
ACLU Comment on Presidents National Security Speech
Below is a statement from Anthony D. Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union, on President Obama's national security speech today:
"President Obama is right to say that we cannot be on a war footing forever, but the time to take our country off the global warpath and fully restore the rule of law is now, not at some indeterminate future point. Four years into his presidency, President Obama has finally taken the first steps to jumpstart his administration's effort to make good on early campaign promises to close Guantánamo and recognized the human cost of failing to act. These are encouraging and noteworthy actions.
"To the extent the speech signals an end to signature strikes, recognizes the need for congressional oversight, and restricts the use of drones to threats against the American people, the developments on targeted killings are promising. Yet the president still claims broad authority to carry out targeted killings far from any battlefield, and there is still insufficient transparency. We continue to disagree fundamentally with the idea that due process requirements can be satisfied without any form of judicial oversight by regular federal courts.
"We are particularly gratified that President Obama embraced our recommendations to use his authority to allow prompt transfer and release of Guantánamo detainees who pose no national security threat and that have been cleared by the military and intelligence agencies. We also applaud his appointment of a high level official to supervise the process for closing Guantánamo once and for all.
"But there are other problems that must still be addressed. The unconstitutional military commissions must be shuttered, not brought to the United States. While the president expressed appropriate concern about indefinite detention, he offered no clear plan for ending this unconstitutional policy for those who have not been tried or cleared for release.
"President Obama's efforts to repair his legacy in the eyes of future historians will require that he continue to double down if he is to fully restore this nation's standing at home and abroad. The ACLU realizes that Congress has thrown significant barriers in closing Guantánamo. But in some areas Congress has been more progressive, having recently demanded legal memoranda that claim to authorize the illegal killing program. The ACLU stands ready to work with, and if necessary do battle with, those elements of government that impede our nation's obligations to honor the rule of law and to protect our values while safeguarding our security."
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/aclu-comment-presidents-national-security-speech
Below is a statement from Anthony D. Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union, on President Obama's national security speech today:
"President Obama is right to say that we cannot be on a war footing forever, but the time to take our country off the global warpath and fully restore the rule of law is now, not at some indeterminate future point. Four years into his presidency, President Obama has finally taken the first steps to jumpstart his administration's effort to make good on early campaign promises to close Guantánamo and recognized the human cost of failing to act. These are encouraging and noteworthy actions.
"To the extent the speech signals an end to signature strikes, recognizes the need for congressional oversight, and restricts the use of drones to threats against the American people, the developments on targeted killings are promising. Yet the president still claims broad authority to carry out targeted killings far from any battlefield, and there is still insufficient transparency. We continue to disagree fundamentally with the idea that due process requirements can be satisfied without any form of judicial oversight by regular federal courts.
"We are particularly gratified that President Obama embraced our recommendations to use his authority to allow prompt transfer and release of Guantánamo detainees who pose no national security threat and that have been cleared by the military and intelligence agencies. We also applaud his appointment of a high level official to supervise the process for closing Guantánamo once and for all.
"But there are other problems that must still be addressed. The unconstitutional military commissions must be shuttered, not brought to the United States. While the president expressed appropriate concern about indefinite detention, he offered no clear plan for ending this unconstitutional policy for those who have not been tried or cleared for release.
"President Obama's efforts to repair his legacy in the eyes of future historians will require that he continue to double down if he is to fully restore this nation's standing at home and abroad. The ACLU realizes that Congress has thrown significant barriers in closing Guantánamo. But in some areas Congress has been more progressive, having recently demanded legal memoranda that claim to authorize the illegal killing program. The ACLU stands ready to work with, and if necessary do battle with, those elements of government that impede our nation's obligations to honor the rule of law and to protect our values while safeguarding our security."
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/aclu-comment-presidents-national-security-speech
UN expert in human rights and counter-terrorism welcomes US Presidents speech
GENEVA (24 May 2013) United Nations Special Rapporteur on human rights and counter-terrorism, Ben Emmerson, today welcomed US President Barack Obamas speech, and the publication of policy principles governing counter-terrorism operations, including targeted killings.
This extremely important speech breaks new ground in a number of key respects. It affirms for the first time this Administration's commitment to seek an end to its armed conflict with Al Qaida as soon as possible; it reminds the world that not every terrorist threat or terrorist attack can be equated with a situation of continuing armed conflict; it sets out more clearly and more authoritatively than ever before the Administration's legal justifications for targeted killing, and the constraints that it operates under; it clarifies, and proposes improvements to, the procedures for independent oversight; and it sets out the steps the President is now resolved to take in order to close Guantanamo Bay.
The publication of the procedural guidelines for the use of force in counter-terrorism operations is a significant step towards increased transparency and accountability. It also disposes of a number of myths, including the suggestion that the US is entitled to regard all military-aged males as combatants, and therefore as legitimate targets.
I will be engaging with senior Administration officials in Washington over the coming days and weeks in an effort to put some flesh on the bones of the announcements made today.
The Presidents historic statement today is to be welcomed as a highly significant step towards greater transparency and accountability; and as a declaration that the US war with Al Qaida and its associated forces is coming to an end. The President's principled commitment to ensuring the closure of Guantanamo is an utterly essential step.
His acknowledgement that the time has come to tackle not only the manifestations of terrorism but also its social, economic and political causes around the world - to seek long term solutions - signals a shift in rhetoric and a move in policy emphasis towards promoting a strategy of sustainable and ethical counter-terrorism, consistent with Pillar I of the UN Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy*.
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=13355&LangID=E
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"That Woman Is WORTH Paying Attention To": Medea Benjamin Explains WHY She DISRUPTED Obama’s Speech [View all]
Segami
May 2013
OP
So, do you vehemently disagree with the President's statement, or are you just calling him a liar?
Dragonfli
May 2013
#46
I mean, sometimes I think some of these folks have simply GOT to be joshing around.
Number23
May 2013
#80
It was a very clear one line reply to the post title, since you speak for the poster,
Dragonfli
May 2013
#95
A one line reply to a title of a post? what else did that weird sentence mean?
Dragonfli
May 2013
#85
The president is very familiar with Medea Benjamin and at one time when he was running for office
sabrina 1
May 2013
#102
Anwar al-Awlaki's son was NOT the target of the drone, senior Al-Qaeda member Ibrahim al-Banna was
Tx4obama
May 2013
#4
You're a "journalist", Can you support your claim or not? How do you know he's....
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#112
The Left is so desperate to make the son an innocent victim that they ignore any and
bluestate10
May 2013
#18
casual dismissal of targeted assassinations of US citizens by our government is more sickening
Dragonfli
May 2013
#69
The kid was NOT the one being targeted. Al-Banna was the target and he was not a US citizen. n/t
Tx4obama
May 2013
#74
He wasn't killed by our drone? I am glad to hear it, I thought we killed a kid! my apologies.
Dragonfli
May 2013
#77
You are the one that said our government targeted a US Citizen. Al-Banna was the target ...
Tx4obama
May 2013
#79
Killing is illusion and a word is what is important then? I thought what happened was important
Dragonfli
May 2013
#82
You have no clue what I think or feel, but I do think you're being rude. Have a great weekend. n/t
Tx4obama
May 2013
#84
And you kind sir, have a continued compassionate empathic day! You express your grief well!
Dragonfli
May 2013
#86
I apologize Ms TX4, I just thought such callousness was more likely a male trait.
Dragonfli
May 2013
#89
She's being compassionate in a way you cannot possibly comprehend
ConservativeDemocrat
May 2013
#130
So you're not part of 'the left'? Then why are you posting here, this is not a right wing
sabrina 1
May 2013
#103
I did NOT say 'but if he was he had it coming'. I take issue with your use of quotation marks. n/t
Tx4obama
May 2013
#62
The point is to state everything known so that a clear picture of the issue can be obtained. n/t
Tx4obama
May 2013
#67
They chose to support a filibuster, not an entire agenda of one man, you have
Dragonfli
May 2013
#57
I think I would be very concerned if you felt any different, I don't want the respect of a silly...,
Dragonfli
May 2013
#88
My concern is - are they laying the groundwork for a republi-CON to get back into the White House?
calimary
May 2013
#25
Gotta say I saw that photo of Code Pink valentines to rand paul, and I immediately
calimary
May 2013
#120
Wait-- I thought finding common ground with political opponents to achieve specific
Marr
May 2013
#30
You should be ashamed of yourself for implying that agreeing with Rand Paul on filibuster
idwiyo
May 2013
#73
Supporting RPs filibuster against torturer is shameful but supporting torture is OK.
idwiyo
May 2013
#96
I know, I just like to remind him (since the time he argued against single payer HC here)
Dragonfli
May 2013
#116
I can bet you a £100 Sid is never going to emigrate. :) He is "do as I say, not as I do" type.
idwiyo
May 2013
#141
"Staging a photo-op" to show support for filibustering a torturer's nomination as a head of CIA is
idwiyo
May 2013
#113
K&R...So many on Dem Site who want to trash Activists...and call them "Naderites and Haters."
KoKo
May 2013
#9
A democrat is only a democrat IF that person agrees with your viewpoints? nt
bluestate10
May 2013
#20
Like agreeing with that criminal Brennan? or Signature strikes? Or a double tap terrorist strategy?
Dragonfli
May 2013
#49
Was happy to have Medea on my show a few weeks back. I dont agree with everything she says
stevenleser
May 2013
#34
Sending chocolate in support of opposing a torturer is deadly and evil you know
Dragonfli
May 2013
#64
She still needs to speak against unregulated Assault Weapons trade to earn my respect on the drone
patrice
May 2013
#55
Has she issued an apology yet to President Obama yet for being rude and disrespectful?
Tx4obama
May 2013
#76
What was the subtle point that I missed? I'd like to know what went over my head.
Marr
May 2013
#101
Okay she is a loony..she thinks Pakistan will help us capture someone? Crazy crazy woman.
dkf
May 2013
#119
In matters of conscience, the law of majority has no place. - Gandhi
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2013
#129