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AndyA

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71. Bullshit

Sun May 26, 2013, 07:59 AM

May 2013

Gun deaths have not steadily declined for 20 years. According to the CDC, gun deaths are rising again after hitting a low point in 2000, and gun deaths will exceed auto fatality deaths for the first time ever by 2015.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-19/american-gun-deaths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015.html

It's nice that you can marginalize people's lives by saying they've never been safer, but you'll never convince the survivors of gun violence of that. Yes, I can say that things aren't working because that's the fact, not NRA talking points.

What a waste of time even responding to you. The NRA owns you, just like many in Congress. Enough. Really.

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Guns for Hunting People Are Different: Legislation Should Reflect That [View all] xchrom May 2013 OP

Some guns are clearly for hunting humans and some 501(c)(4)s are Republican Fronts. onehandle May 2013 #1

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"Assault rifles are rifles of mass destruction." Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #2

What do you consider them? Hoyt May 2013 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author premium May 2013 #4

Small arms, obviously. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #22

They are "weapons of mass destruction" in our country. They are coveted for their killing power. Hoyt May 2013 #24

+1. They exist for no other reason than to kill humans. AndyA May 2013 #27

Thanks, Doctor Hoyt. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #34

College professors are propagandists ..... oldhippie May 2013 #7

Where does the second amendment mention hunting? n/t X_Digger May 2013 #5

The Second is not about hunting. It is about the Eleanors38 May 2013 #8

The 2A is about defense of 'free state' tblue May 2013 #21

The preamble is. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #23

Second Amendment AndyA May 2013 #29

What about the part that says: The Straight Story May 2013 #33

The people have a right to bear arms AndyA May 2013 #36

I think you want it to say that, but that is not what it says The Straight Story May 2013 #44

So the intent of the founders was to allow mass murders of children in schools? AndyA May 2013 #45

Um... society didn't tolerate it The Straight Story May 2013 #46

Um...society IS tolerating it AndyA May 2013 #53

Well = effectively Regulated = controlled by laws tblue May 2013 #47

I disagree that the preamble acts as an unconditional modifier. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #35

I see it differently AndyA May 2013 #39

While I don't agree with your linguistic analysis... Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #41

"..our Constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms" - Barack Obama May 2013 hack89 May 2013 #52

the constitutional scholar has spoken. Niceguy1 May 2013 #54

The right to life trumps the right to bear arms AndyA May 2013 #57

Still doesn't change the fact that Americans have the right to own guns hack89 May 2013 #58

Tell that to survivors of gun violence AndyA May 2013 #59

Americans want changes like universal background checks hack89 May 2013 #60

I don't believe I said anything about outlawing private ownership of guns, or repealing the 2A AndyA May 2013 #61

We have cut our murder rate in half hack89 May 2013 #70

Bullshit AndyA May 2013 #71

Murder rate in 1992 = 9.8 In 2011 it was 4.8 hack89 May 2013 #72

The RKBA is recognized as an individual right, just like... Eleanors38 May 2013 #48

Hmmm. rrneck May 2013 #9

Yeah, I guess ... sucks for them ... Bake May 2013 #10

Why? nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #31

Because I can. Just in case. Bake May 2013 #42

See, this underscores the greater problem in this country. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #43

Semi-auto high powered rifles are dangerous, no doubt about it. raouldukelives May 2013 #11

We've forgot about handguns because ARs look so scary NightWatcher May 2013 #12

Assault weapons kill abut 200 people a year. Handguns kill 30,000 a year. hack89 May 2013 #13

I suppose it's because G_j May 2013 #16

A psycho was able to kill even more people with a handgun hack89 May 2013 #19

I suppose it's because Eleanors38 May 2013 #49

Agree, we need to focus on handguns,toting, etc. Although I see no reason not to focus on guns Hoyt May 2013 #17

Every gun made is designed to kill people hack89 May 2013 #20

Of course, you guys wouldn't covet them if harmless, non-intimidating, good for society, etc. Hoyt May 2013 #25

I covet mine because they shoot straight hack89 May 2013 #26

I covet mine because I got them for next to nothing. premium May 2013 #30

I covet mine because they're pieces of history, and one of them is worth more than your car. :) Decoy of Fenris May 2013 #62

Pieces of history -- used to kill hundreds of thousands. Not inspiring if you ask me. Hoyt May 2013 #63

Pieces of history -- used to save hundreds of millions. Also, to shape the modern world. Decoy of Fenris May 2013 #64

Some people are attracted to seedy stuff. Hoyt May 2013 #68

Part of my Family History oneshooter May 2013 #65

They were talking about "assault" weapons. You guys with guns in your user name Hoyt May 2013 #67

"if you ask me", premium May 2013 #66

Collecting guns is on par with collecting swastikas and confederate flags. Hoyt May 2013 #69

About par for the course from you. nt. premium May 2013 #73

Hunting people should be illegal. Orrex May 2013 #14

We could start a White House petition... Pelican May 2013 #15

There was a movie made about hunting humans, premium May 2013 #32

That movie is so bad that it's part of the reason why it should be illegal Orrex May 2013 #37

Yeah, it really wasn't that good. premium May 2013 #38

It is. Eleanors38 May 2013 #50

Then why are guns for hunting people different? Orrex May 2013 #55

"Hunting people" is a systematic plan to kill humans... Eleanors38 May 2013 #56

The First Commandment? derby378 May 2013 #18

What a classic Fudd. aikoaiko May 2013 #28

Which type of gun HASN'T been made to hunt people? NickB79 May 2013 #40

Yeah, like muskets.. Fla_Democrat May 2013 #51

The kids and I managed to squeeze in some time with the AR's yesterday. ileus May 2013 #74