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51. That does not make any sense. Is the weekly free clinic Occupy does here 'entirely pointless'?

Sun May 26, 2013, 09:46 AM

May 2013

It exists because of Occupy, not because of anything else. How is it wasted effort to create a free clinic? You get free medical care under your taxes, here we don't. Yet you claim helping those in need and offering an example to the rest of the community is 'entirely pointless'. So people get medicines that heal them. That's pointless, so why do you have NHS? Why bother if caring for others is entirely pointless?
Right wingers hate what Occupy is doing, as do the 'moderate centrists' who offer no other solutions, they just say 'shut that clinic down'.
I just don't see hundreds of people in my own town getting health care they can not otherwise attain to be wasted effort. I don't see the people helped as being unworthy of help. You find that to be 'saddening and annoying'. I do not agree that helping people is pointless.
And of course, you have free to access healthcare in your entire nation. But you are annoyed to see Occupy offer that to poor Americans. Mel Brooks said this about comedy and tragedy 'Tragedy is when I cut my finger, comedy is when you fall down and open sewer and die'. The point being that when other people get access to health care, you are annoyed, when you get it you consider it a right.

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You tell me OWS is dead.... [View all] catnhatnh May 2013 OP

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Get off my lawn ya bunch of dirty Hippies! bvar22 May 2013 #62

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I seem to have stepped through the Looking Glass again. SleeplessinSoCal May 2013 #133

Have you considered the implications of that? FBaggins May 2013 #153

the politicians in the purchased bubble, not the people, I mentioned they are not represented Dragonfli May 2013 #155

+1,000 Scuba May 2013 #27

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1) I'm not conservative; 2) I've never WANTED the demise of OWS brooklynite May 2013 #180

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somebody said the left was dead.. madrchsod May 2013 #2

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I just checked my pulse tavalon May 2013 #85

Many Thanks to Ben, and Best Wishes to ALL of You!...knr/nt GReedDiamond May 2013 #4

Thanks-I'm proud as Hell of him. N/T catnhatnh May 2013 #5

Much respect for your son, Ben! Cane4Dems May 2013 #6

Your son needs to be aware of the ruling Glik v. Boston. Man arrested for filming police, Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #7

Thanks... catnhatnh May 2013 #12

It is disgusting, but true... dotymed May 2013 #35

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Thanks so much... catnhatnh May 2013 #10

You are very welcome. I would be here all night if I were to list the activities they have been sabrina 1 May 2013 #13

It's like they don't remember that when they first fully embraced the views of the left... catnhatnh May 2013 #15

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Ron Paul? Do they actually embrace everything he stands for? If so, that speaks volumes. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #22

Maybe if the Democratic Party offered something besides Republican Lite, bvar22 May 2013 #64

Fuck Occupy, and all who sail in her! Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #101

And you wonder WHY intelligent, young people are looking for "change". bvar22 May 2013 #103

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I love the revelations just the mention of OWS brings out. sabrina 1 May 2013 #149

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Sadly the Tea Party accomplished something before fizzling out... Pelican May 2013 #151

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Those words don't mean what you think they mean... Pelican May 2013 #164

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Really? That's what you are bringing out as a major accomplishment? Pelican May 2013 #165

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Lead, Follow, or Get Out of the Way... bvar22 May 2013 #178

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The Fear, Denial, and Bitterness is palpable. bvar22 May 2013 #185

The Tea Party 'accomplished something'? Really? Could you enlighten us as to what that was? sabrina 1 May 2013 #168

Look... Pelican May 2013 #170

The TP was a phony, fake, deceptive political organization created by the Far Right to elect sabrina 1 May 2013 #171

Got it.. Pelican May 2013 #173

No you didn't 'get it'. The snobbery of those who ignore the massive corruption sabrina 1 May 2013 #177

To say that OWS was a waste is mean spirited. rhett o rick May 2013 #186

That must be it... Pelican May 2013 #187

If you disagree present your argument. Hating OWS is mean spirited and totally right-wing. rhett o rick May 2013 #188

With eloquence like that... Pelican May 2013 #191

You dont have a clue as to what OWS was about if you think they were trying to get others to join. rhett o rick May 2013 #192

Oh.. Pelican May 2013 #195

"I'm not worried about OWS disrupting anything except possibly my commute to work." rhett o rick May 2013 #196

Anything of substance to add or address? Pelican May 2013 #197

I see now you won't need to answer my question Kingofalldems May 2013 #198

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Nothing personal, but I don't recall you much at all. It is a bit spooky to learn that someone sabrina 1 May 2013 #154

Oh, so now you don't remember? Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #156

And that says it all right there. When argument fails lash out with right-wing expletives. rhett o rick May 2013 #182

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K&R defacto7 May 2013 #9

You should be Proud! BillyRibs May 2013 #11

Tell your son burrowowl May 2013 #14

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+1 octoberlib May 2013 #132

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It is a revolution for the young to embrace. Rex May 2013 #20

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the poster didn't ask a question. and since her son is occupy, i guess he has a HiPointDem May 2013 #23

I don't think anyone, including the "members"... Pelican May 2013 #25

it's clearly not past tense. HiPointDem May 2013 #26

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Oh, it shows.... Pelican May 2013 #166

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Well Said! bvar22 May 2013 #78

Guess who was asked to and did - Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #58

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Trust YOU??!!! bvar22 May 2013 #163

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Yep...look at that pointless idiot... catnhatnh May 2013 #33

Ah, the good old ad hominem - a staple of those without an answer. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #34

Jolly Well... catnhatnh May 2013 #36

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+1 ChaoticTrilby May 2013 #104

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OCCUPY is living in YOUR head Rent Free, bvar22 May 2013 #80

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Have a good day nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #127

The dreaded 'Have a good day' finale! You will be scarred for life, no doubt! randome May 2013 #129

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The sheer desperation by a small handful of members over OWS Rex May 2013 #75

Thanks. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #112

Perfect! n/t L0oniX May 2013 #142

Ah, those with cake who wish that others get none. You have NHS Bluenorthwest May 2013 #45

Nonsense. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #46

That does not make any sense. Is the weekly free clinic Occupy does here 'entirely pointless'? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #51

Which movement is 'without goals'?? Are you serious? sabrina 1 May 2013 #56

Not pointless, evolving. tavalon May 2013 #89

I am sorry you dont recognize the point. The movement needs all the help it rhett o rick May 2013 #92

It's Sunday, and that means another OccupyMedical free clinic in Downtown Eugene Bluenorthwest May 2013 #32

Thanks for that post. madfloridian May 2013 #39

I've posted that information before, and been shocked at the venomous reaction from 'centrists' Bluenorthwest May 2013 #42

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Yes, we are all still here, waiting. Timing is everything. Zorra May 2013 #37

You hit that nail on the head perfectly. We are still working but tavalon May 2013 #91

Big K&R for Ben! nt raouldukelives May 2013 #41

I know it's not dead nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #48

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #49

Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin May 2013 #55

There are millions of committed and caring people in America hack89 May 2013 #50

K&R SalviaBlue May 2013 #59

From one Occupier to another: Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #60

I'm so absolutely wowed at the talent and dedication of Ben.... Thank you! midnight May 2013 #61

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT May 2013 #65

I want to thank so many posters for the kind words on this thread. catnhatnh May 2013 #66

Oh it's alive and well, serving as a huge eyesore and making it hard for people in wheelchairs. dkf May 2013 #67

See reply 36 catnhatnh May 2013 #68

Frankly what your son is doing isn't very OWSish. dkf May 2013 #69

Yup, why they organized from the begining to help nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #71

With them being the down and out I suppose? They didn't even further their own circumstance. dkf May 2013 #72

Well locally they have been deeply involved in the communities nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #90

DKF-try reading comprehension-Get Lost. N/T catnhatnh May 2013 #73

Rec. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #113

+1 L0oniX May 2013 #144

What a total surprise you would post something negative about OWS! Rex May 2013 #77

Gee ...almost every protest does that. Lets ban protests. n/t L0oniX May 2013 #143

Thank you, Ben. You are awesome. Solidarity. nt DLevine May 2013 #70

You're so lucky tohave a son like that BobbyBoring May 2013 #76

I like your boy whatchamacallit May 2013 #81

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Thank you. ctsnowman May 2013 #84

Your son secondvariety May 2013 #86

What big brother has done to Ben and so many others of the OWS movement indepat May 2013 #93

Hear! Hear! And truedelphi May 2013 #108

Be proud. He is amazing. MuseRider May 2013 #94

"Instead of telling me they are dead tell me what you are doing that matters more." NorthCarolina May 2013 #96

Occupy Albany is very much alive and well and operating. secondwind May 2013 #97

Damn right its not dead. DeSwiss May 2013 #99

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This just in: catnhatnh May 2013 #110

Can't wait nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #114

Are they going to do anything differently this time? randome May 2013 #116

Not sure... catnhatnh May 2013 #119

Since the legislators are owned by Big Business, they're all playing for the same team. So we Zorra May 2013 #122

Corporations are not people, remember? I don't see why anyone expects them to respond like people. randome May 2013 #124

"Legislators aren't employees so much as cowards..." socialist_n_TN May 2013 #138

What about leaders? lordsummerisle May 2013 #117

You have it backwards. We are all leaders. There are no followers. Zorra May 2013 #120

No, some of us who think Occupy is ineffective genuinely think it is ineffective. randome May 2013 #125

And some people think the earth is flat, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary. Zorra May 2013 #130

The decision to be a leaderless movement was brilliant. Had there been a leader, and Faux sabrina 1 May 2013 #136

Ever hear of OWS? Ever hear of the 99%? "ineffective"??? Try reading a dictionary. n/t L0oniX May 2013 #145

"Leadership" is the least of their problems, however, directionless is a huge issue. I don't know.. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #147

K&R! MotherPetrie May 2013 #128

k! G_j May 2013 #134

kick Zorra May 2013 #146

Huge K&R woo me with science May 2013 #148

K&R. Thank you and a huge thank you to your son! myrna minx May 2013 #152

K&R YoungDemCA May 2013 #159

Yay for OWS and your son. The Midway Rebel May 2013 #172

An idea perfect for the times It's a lifetime thing. Kurovski May 2013 #176

Sure wish we could get tens of thousands at an OWS march instead.... Hotler May 2013 #193

What a hero. You must be very proud. merrily Nov 2013 #199

You should be proud.. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #200

k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #201