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In reply to the discussion: Health Insurance Rate Shock-California Obamacare Insurance Exchange Announces Premium Rates [View all]a kennedy
(29,560 posts)35. I agree Scuba.....gotta get the door open to begin with and the ACA does that.
It's a first step and I would love single payer also.
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Health Insurance Rate Shock-California Obamacare Insurance Exchange Announces Premium Rates [View all]
Scuba
May 2013
OP
History repeats. Democrats have a long history of cleaning up republican fiscal messes at
bluestate10
May 2013
#191
More info please: where do you live, what is your premium and for what insurance?
SunSeeker
May 2013
#3
That website, which allowed a person a larger and more complete understanding of what was to
truedelphi
May 2013
#157
"Every 3-6 months since the insurance act passed...my premiums are going up"
cheapdate
May 2013
#259
Exactly. My brother will finally be able to buy insurance for the first time in his life.
SunSeeker
May 2013
#4
bullshit. sanders said there were less than 10 votes for single payer in the senate...
dionysus
May 2013
#228
Well, I didn't get the shingles shot, even though my doctor recommended it.
Comrade Grumpy
May 2013
#34
So the reason insurance costs are so high is because people are getting TOO MUCH care?
BrotherIvan
May 2013
#42
Probably not what the poster was talking about, BUT I think there's some truth in that.
Squinch
May 2013
#105
All it does is require a person to have "coverage" it does nothing to guarantee access to care.
dflprincess
May 2013
#187
I agree on single-payer, and the disastrous state of our for-profit insurance system ...
Scuba
May 2013
#17
I agree Scuba.....gotta get the door open to begin with and the ACA does that.
a kennedy
May 2013
#35
Yes "it's a first step" has a nice ring but is hollow unless it is followed up with a second
rhett o rick
May 2013
#89
I wish I were 18. But reality is, I'm not. Time to move on and work with what we have...
Honeycombe8
May 2013
#22
Che we will get there. It might be a slower process but I have a feeling we will get there.
southernyankeebelle
May 2013
#51
And another chapter in the history of vicious discrimination against gay people opens....
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#18
Oh, the naysayers and anti-healthcare reform sky-is-falling folks aren't gonna like this.
Honeycombe8
May 2013
#19
A 63-year old single making 60K under the Covered CA "silver" plan pays $679 a month.
haele
May 2013
#166
your health may be "relatively good" one day, and "really bad" the next. Holding off until Medicare
antigop
Jun 2013
#285
They are affordable in a sick world where your health premiums are similar to your mortgage
dkf
May 2013
#33
That statement is just so you, overlooking the pollutants and poisons that are killing us.
Scuba
May 2013
#74
Now I see what you mean. It's not a great deal for middle to upper middle class
flamingdem
May 2013
#57
If they got laid off, they wouldn't have the income and would qualify for lower rates and subsidies
OKNancy
May 2013
#107
$1026 per month for two people w/ income $63000 IS NOT AFFORDABLE-- I don't care what your age is.
antigop
May 2013
#120
ACA looks like it's going to make a new class of poor people. Those with a living income who don't
Flatulo
May 2013
#140
But when you find yourself between that rock and a hard place, it's still better than what we had.
hunter
May 2013
#76
I have to agree with you there brother. Same thing here in MA with our Romneycare.
Flatulo
May 2013
#113
I didn't say it didn't benefit me -- I don't live in CA. But the CA rates screw older pre-Medicare
antigop
May 2013
#185
exactly what I have tried to get across...ACCESS means nothing if you CAN'T AFFORD the
antigop
May 2013
#192
I've been beating that drum for a long time and many don't seem to get it.
dflprincess
May 2013
#199
You are correct -- many don't seem to get it...until it happens to them. Thank you. nt
antigop
May 2013
#200
The shame is the ACA will do nothing to alleviate the bankruptcies ...
slipslidingaway
May 2013
#252
that's my point. It's not just the PREMIUMS...it's the copays/coinsurance/deductibles
antigop
May 2013
#117
Exactly and we're living it now with a high annual out of pocket maximum...
slipslidingaway
May 2013
#254
Why do You think Repukes voted so vehemently against ACA? It's going to be one of the best things..
hue
May 2013
#100
that's what people need to look at -- it's not just the premiums --- it's the max out of pocket...
antigop
May 2013
#121
Even With the Affordable Care Act, Health Insurance Coverage Remains Unaffordable for Many
antigop
May 2013
#122
This is good, it will begin the move of health insurance from employers to individual....
cbdo2007
May 2013
#155
I'm pretty sure you didn't get my response. Maybe reread it and have a cup of
cbdo2007
May 2013
#161
I don't need to do research...I read the article and understood what it said. nt
antigop
May 2013
#164
well, it's your choice... you can misinterpret the article or you can go back and re-read it and
antigop
May 2013
#167
Thank you for the permission to have a choice. I grant you permission to have a choice as well
cbdo2007
May 2013
#169
I wasn't misinterpreting anything...you need to understand what the article says. nt
antigop
May 2013
#172
But your post shows you really didn't understand it. Sorry. No need to keep this up.
antigop
May 2013
#181
I understood it just fine. Unfortunately you didn't understand my response and make the connection
cbdo2007
May 2013
#210
Some NC employers cut worker hours to avoid cost of health care reform
WorseBeforeBetter
Jun 2013
#271
President Obama's plan already saves me $19,200 OUT OF POCKET. with NO lifetime cap, and
graham4anything
May 2013
#126
I wouldn't call $1500/month "affordable". And what is the max out of pocket in addition
antigop
May 2013
#131
I know they are the current rates....the poster was touting how "great" they were. nt
antigop
May 2013
#144
Nope what? Who can afford $18000 in premiums as graham4anything is paying today? nt
antigop
May 2013
#225
And you have to be able to handle premiums+ max op if you want to be covered. nt
antigop
May 2013
#241
Did you read your own article? That's the high risk pool, not the exchange. nt
antigop
Jun 2013
#265
you don't even know if it's "progress" or not if you don't know the max out of pocket. You were the
antigop
May 2013
#151
Best benefit to me is-WE WERE FREE TO CHANGE now in 2013.WE WERE NOT FREE in 2012(or prior).
graham4anything
May 2013
#208
and how many people can afford $1500/month + max op? That's the point. Just because YOU can.
antigop
May 2013
#211
One has to have insurance. One has to make choices on WHAT IS AVAILABLE today, not 20 yrs from now
graham4anything
May 2013
#213
Thank God for President Obama,Sen. Kennedy Gov. Brown and future Pres. Hillary for moving us forward
graham4anything
May 2013
#217
I keep asking the question because NO ONE has been able to claim $1026 for two people on a $63000
antigop
May 2013
#229
and I'll ask the question again...how many people can afford $1500/month +max OP?
antigop
May 2013
#215
I'm reiterating that the rates are NOT affordable -- especially for older pre-Medicare who do not
antigop
May 2013
#226
Now figure out the % of what you are paying in premiums + your max out of pocket.
antigop
Jun 2013
#266
You were the one raving about the tax breaks. So--what's the percentage of income
antigop
Jun 2013
#291
You can't spread the premiums over years... they have to be paid each month. nt
antigop
Jun 2013
#296
I'm very familiar with the legislation -- but you weren't following the thread
antigop
May 2013
#224
Average premiums in Cali are $323 post leg. Now, you tell me what your couple paid prior to the
mzmolly
May 2013
#233
Average means nothing....look at the calculator... run the scenarios...two people ages 55 -64.
antigop
May 2013
#235
The calculator = worst case scenario and was based upon inaccurate predictions.
mzmolly
May 2013
#237
for the last time...READ. THE. ARTICLE. It doesn't say COVERED CA is based upon older data.
antigop
Jun 2013
#301
Sorry to hear that, NiteOWll. I agree -- it's not just the premiums. It's the copays, coinsurance
antigop
May 2013
#186
My health-care coverage (Capital Blue Cross/Group. PA.) just INCREASED $17/mo = $204/yr more.
WinkyDink
May 2013
#248