Do smoking bans apply to e-cigarettes?

[Tyhanna]

344. can you say

bans out of ignorance?

Because they dont know they make laws. Its a knee-jerk reaction. Instead of finding out what e-cigs are all about by asking the people who use them they just make laws. The vaping community were the ones that researched and devoloped and made better what the chinese pharmacist made years ago. NO government agency, no large tobacco company.Most law makers dont even know what they are unless they have a family member that use them. If they are scared of them or whatever they think they need to make laws.

Long term, that is very subjective, there are drugs on the market right now that are just being found out to have problems and they have been on the market 5, 10, 15 years as more people take them. Even the FDA doesnt require drug companies to do that long of studys before sending the drug out to market. The long term study starts when they go to market.

There are plenty of people that have been using e-cigs 4 years now, alot that started years ago have long quit using them and are smokefree.

To have an ethical study you need a control group and a user group. I dont think your going to find anyone that are non-smokers and that dont use nicotine to start, I wouldnt want them to.

Its just not easy and it takes along time. There is a study going on in a few different places right now, PA, MA and one other I believe in MI.
To get a lab and drs, scientist and the equiptment its very expensive. CASAA is starting a study this summer and are still raising money to have it happen.
if anyone here would want to donate some money to further the study that would be so nice.
www.casaa.org

There was a study done with vapor on heart cells, comparing cigarette smoke effects and vapor effects at the cell level on heart cells. Short story is the cigarette smoke saw lots of deaths of cells, with vapor they saw growth of heart cells and very little death.

So yea there plenty of studies going on and have been done, but it seems nobody wants to look at these studies. And its not just studies done in the US but in many other countries, more people use e-cigs in the EU and all the other countries outside the EU. 7 million just in the EU, 2.5 and growing here in the US, maybe as many as 2million + in the remaining countries.