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Fallacy of undivided middle TrogL May 2013 #1
I think it would take more than one experiment to confirm this as causation madokie May 2013 #3
True but while they do more tests the WiFi leaves our bedroom malaise May 2013 #14
Nothing wrong with that thinking for sure madokie May 2013 #44
The precautionary principle Berlum May 2013 #97
Ha malaise May 2013 #106
Of course. It needs more than one experiment to see if it's true. sakabatou May 2013 #107
Agreed. redwitch May 2013 #7
Possibly but it certainly begs further study and therefore was a successful experiment. Kablooie May 2013 #37
Some of this was addressed in the longer ABC piece. IdaBriggs May 2013 #84
" I'm betting something was different between the two rooms" greiner3 May 2013 #157
I'm thinking like a downdraft that dried out one set of seeds TrogL May 2013 #162
We're gonna need a bigger bag Cirque du So-What May 2013 #2
Uh Oh...you looking to stir up "stuff?" KoKo May 2013 #4
Moi? Cirque du So-What May 2013 #10
LMAO! But phones out of the bedroom for now! n/t Greybnk48 May 2013 #21
Yep. ananda May 2013 #32
Wow. That is A LOT of popcorn! IdaBriggs May 2013 #63
Would you like me to post photos from my greenhouse? REP May 2013 #74
Your orchids are incredibly beautiful! etherealtruth May 2013 #75
Thanks! Compliments just gets you more photos, though. REP May 2013 #79
Breathtaking! Thank you! n/t etherealtruth May 2013 #86
Very nice! MNBrewer May 2013 #90
Phals are winter bloomers* REP May 2013 #94
Will it help if I put it next to my wireless router? MNBrewer May 2013 #99
As long as they don't have your credit card number REP May 2013 #100
OMG! circumcised Pitt Bulls were breastfeeding in Olive Gardens???!!! nt tblue37 May 2013 #148
Seems to me there was a report several years ago burnodo May 2013 #5
in the mid nineties there was a scare DeadEyeDyck May 2013 #58
Yes and there are different frequencies of electromagnetic energy siligut May 2013 #80
You ever notice the dead circles around the cell towers Progressive dog May 2013 #6
turns out we're all actually dead people. unblock May 2013 #9
Zombiebot nation. ananda May 2013 #33
+1 Canuckistanian May 2013 #18
The dead circles around cell towers are most likely caused by SpankMe May 2013 #39
I was joking about there being dead circles Progressive dog May 2013 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #53
Mother Nature Network? MineralMan May 2013 #8
Also reported by ABC News. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #13
+1 Liberal_in_LA May 2013 #15
Yes. It will be interesting to see the results of a MineralMan May 2013 #27
Might be interesting gvstn May 2013 #62
That would be good, but they would also need the person watering the plants not know Thor_MN May 2013 #153
I promise you that the plants growing next to the router will not be dead ... Buzz Clik May 2013 #66
Definitely deserving of more research. Good on the girls regardless of eventual outcome. nt stevenleser May 2013 #11
"If they slept with their mobile phones near their heads at night"..... Nye Bevan May 2013 #12
Exactly. penultimate May 2013 #16
^THIS^ mac56 May 2013 #26
... or it didn't entirely wake them ... surrealAmerican May 2013 #55
This was my immediate thought. hughee99 May 2013 #144
Woooooooo MNBrewer May 2013 #17
Not sure what the turtle story has to do with this one, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #20
Uh huh. MNBrewer May 2013 #48
ABC news isn't known for their science. Apophis May 2013 #51
Who needs prisonplanet anymore? Who needs mercola, or naturalnews?... SidDithers May 2013 #69
GD has certainly become a showcase for Wooo etherealtruth May 2013 #76
See reply #82. Same answer. nt IdaBriggs May 2013 #83
See post #49 / flawed science = wooo (a polite term) etherealtruth May 2013 #87
Hmm. Judges at a regional science competition or you? IdaBriggs May 2013 #92
The kids did a magnificent job for K-I-D-S etherealtruth May 2013 #95
So why the automatic assumption of "woo" (which is insulting to the kids) IdaBriggs May 2013 #108
The WOOOO label was not asigned to the kids etherealtruth May 2013 #110
Since the topic is the kids and their achievement, please clarify. IdaBriggs May 2013 #111
Is this a single trial study? MNBrewer May 2013 #117
It is the results of a regional science fair that is generating international interest IdaBriggs May 2013 #147
The title of this thread is Woo MNBrewer May 2013 #158
See post #87 uppityperson May 2013 #102
LOL etherealtruth May 2013 #105
For goodness sake - get off the "woo" train. IdaBriggs May 2013 #82
Andrew Wakefield REP May 2013 #101
I just finished watching a Mazda commercial that made more sense. IdaBriggs May 2013 #109
Ah. Commercials make sense to you. Understood. REP May 2013 #114
Wow. Just...wow. IdaBriggs May 2013 #116
Ida- for a lot of DU'ers it's not about conversation but proving ones intellectual superiority. KittyWampus May 2013 #118
Do you think they notice the "epic fail" that they keep coming up with? IdaBriggs May 2013 #142
And for others it's not about understanding another's point, but proving one's ignorance. cleanhippie May 2013 #164
Enjoy the go! REP May 2013 #125
Did you win a regional science contest and I missed it? IdaBriggs May 2013 #145
"can only shake my head in awe at those who believe that all the discoveries have already been made" winter is coming May 2013 #122
Edison. Fosbury. Hamilton. IdaBriggs May 2013 #143
We had to constantly cut the weeds growing around the 50KW transmitter antennas. hobbit709 May 2013 #19
I grew seedlings in a room with wi-fi with no problem. NutmegYankee May 2013 #22
Here is a real life experiment that proved to be the cause of dying plants in my home. kelliekat44 May 2013 #23
No need to debate. The test will be refined and run by others and the truth will out. GoneFishin May 2013 #24
Exactly. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #31
I'm skeptical.. the statistics is way too much for not to be observed long ago. My bet is that it... JackN415 May 2013 #25
Power lines too. gulliver May 2013 #28
LOL! Buzz Clik May 2013 #38
Some say its really humans wercal May 2013 #42
The longest grass in my yard is always right underneath the power lines MNBrewer May 2013 #89
And driveways. Grass is low along driveways and tree trunks are rarely by them also. uppityperson May 2013 #103
I was amazed last summer. I went to work one morning, came home and all the trees along the power Thor_MN May 2013 #154
The issue for me is, why have we allowed these technologies to proliferate snot May 2013 #29
For two reasons jeff47 May 2013 #56
OK I'm going to put some plants next to the router Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #30
My cell phone instruction book advised not to waer next to body......its a prepaid samsung..... Gin May 2013 #34
There are some studies which show a correlation Ms. Toad May 2013 #43
I had a cousin marions ghost May 2013 #70
I had a cousin who never used a cell phone, died of brain cancer at 50. Didn't use cordless phones uppityperson May 2013 #104
50-50 chance then marions ghost May 2013 #113
I know a lot of people who use cell phones but don't have brain cancer. I haven't seen reputable uppityperson May 2013 #135
The reason we don't have such definitive studies marions ghost May 2013 #160
I am convinced that my daughter's MMR vaccination is related to her development of IBD Ms. Toad May 2013 #152
Yes we need more research marions ghost May 2013 #159
Bwwwaaahhaaaa! Kudzu, thy hour is nigh!!!! kiva May 2013 #35
Oooh - good thought! n/t Ms. Toad May 2013 #41
They better kill the plans to add wifi to the Amazon forest. Kablooie May 2013 #36
Hmm...sounds a lot like this microwaved water test Ms. Toad May 2013 #40
If you wrap your router in aluminum foil.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #45
A lot of people boost wifi range by making little antenna dishes out of tinfoil. backscatter712 May 2013 #91
(most) Everyone is waiting for better science. (most) Everyone is applauding... Junkdrawer May 2013 #93
The KIDS absolutely rock etherealtruth May 2013 #96
I just realized my wife has a whole shit pot of flowers madokie May 2013 #47
Is today National Flawed Study Day or something? arcane1 May 2013 #49
This is silly. I have a WiFi router in my bedroom Gore1FL May 2013 #50
^== Best. Reply. Ever. IdaBriggs May 2013 #64
Haa ha! n/t JimDandy May 2013 #151
It's good that they are sparking an interest in science in children. Loudestlib May 2013 #52
Maybe they should put the plants a little closer to the window. cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #54
Are we supposed to just assume ... surrealAmerican May 2013 #57
You're expected to assume all sorts of things MineralMan May 2013 #60
This is a job for... SCVDem May 2013 #59
Great that these FlaGranny May 2013 #61
I had a tray of seedlings die that weren't near a wireless router. Lex May 2013 #65
The results are clear: it was you. You're toxic. Buzz Clik May 2013 #67
Science is harsh. nt Lex May 2013 #68
You wouldn't want to live in a world without WiFi. Buzz Clik May 2013 #71
They would have died sooner had they been near the router. Gormy Cuss May 2013 #77
yeah this doesnt come close to qualifying as an 'experiement' pasto76 May 2013 #72
Out of curiosity, did you click on the link to see the photos? IdaBriggs May 2013 #73
The kids did a terrific job for kids etherealtruth May 2013 #98
It IS lovely Science Fair fare MNBrewer May 2013 #120
Kudos to these kids! bvar22 May 2013 #78
Why don't they just put toilet water on them? Initech May 2013 #81
What? Water from the toilet? We use Brawndo! backscatter712 May 2013 #88
Monsanto will JimDandy May 2013 #85
And everyone responds according to their bias. Cerridwen May 2013 #112
And there is nothing I can add. IdaBriggs May 2013 #115
There is no such thing as "safe" Harmony Blue May 2013 #119
It's always been known that microwaves are harmful, hasn't it? Signs... Honeycombe8 May 2013 #132
There is no known way that microwaves can cause cancer William Seger May 2013 #146
Interesting post, thanks thesquanderer May 2013 #161
Physicist Bob Parks William Seger May 2013 #163
I looked at the link MNBrewer May 2013 #121
"given the paucity of information."..." Cerridwen May 2013 #123
Based on the available information MNBrewer May 2013 #124
"Woo"? Or doesn't hold with your Cerridwen May 2013 #126
Yeah, my 1994 Ph.D. from the University of California Berkeley is about to be made worthless MNBrewer May 2013 #127
Was two-dimensional thinking taught in your discipline Cerridwen May 2013 #130
Ouch, got me! MNBrewer May 2013 #134
The discussion was "woo" as defined Cerridwen May 2013 #137
Well, again, I clicked the links MNBrewer May 2013 #138
I'd ask you to point to the woo Cerridwen May 2013 #140
If you can't see it MNBrewer May 2013 #141
It's an eighth-grade science project. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #128
The Danish students may not have "woo-ed" but DU sure has MNBrewer May 2013 #129
Quit making sense, dammit! IdaBriggs May 2013 #149
The woo is the presumptive theory that non-ionizing radiation could have an effect on living matter. Thor_MN May 2013 #155
+1. It's one thing to observe that plants didn't grow in the wi-fi room winter is coming May 2013 #165
Wow. Glad my wireless router is in another room & I don't use cell ph. much. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #131
I don't believe it at all. LisaL May 2013 #133
We are bathed by radiowaves every second of our lives. Most of them are not from humans. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #136
Yep. Cerridwen May 2013 #139
Get back to me when those living next to broadcast towers become ill Gravitycollapse May 2013 #166
Maybe they can't concentrate the next day because like tblue37 May 2013 #150
reminds me of the high school science project where microwaved water NoMoreWarNow May 2013 #156
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