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18. I understand where you're coming from...

Reply to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #17)

Mon May 27, 2013, 05:03 PM

May 2013

but common sense says that a line has to be drawn somewhere. How young is too young? 14? 13? 10?

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What if Kevin had committed statutory rape instead of Kaitlynn? [View all] NaturalHigh May 2013 OP

I knew a Kevin loyalsister May 2013 #1

I also think they are being consistent. NaturalHigh May 2013 #2

I've seen it to loyalsister May 2013 #3

The inconsistency reflects physical reality eridani Jun 2013 #85

How do you know? loyalsister Jun 2013 #87

Psychological abuse is certainly possible with either eridani Jun 2013 #99

Assume the same encounter that happened with Kate happened instead with Kevin. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #96

I'm talking about known facts that inform relationships eridani Jun 2013 #100

Assuming that the statistics to which you refer are correct... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #101

I'm a lot more certain that the 14 year old is much less likely to sustain physical damage eridani Jun 2013 #105

Okay, just to clarify... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #106

14 year olds should not be having sex with anyone. eridani Jun 2013 #109

I can see your point, but I don't think the law should discriminate in her favor. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #110

The law needs to consider actual harm, period eridani Jun 2013 #111

Then I will respectfully disagree with your opinion and be on my way. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #112

You ever see one of these? snooper2 Jun 2013 #118

Something of a minority taste among lesbians, AFAIK n/t eridani Jun 2013 #119

Well... let's see now... I have a SON who happens to be a teenager. ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #4

Seriously? NaturalHigh May 2013 #6

Seriously... or get them out of school together if one magically becomes an adult at 18. nt ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #9

This ignorant logic. joeglow3 Jun 2013 #90

Yeah, I don't see how "they went to school together"... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #97

Yes, because that's exactly what I said... ScreamingMeemie Jun 2013 #102

Yes, that was your justification joeglow3 Jun 2013 #104

There is also a difference between being OK Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #66

The victims' parents in this case tried to have a family discussion. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #72

Not go to the police at all. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #74

Then I will just respectfully disagree with you. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #75

I totally agree. nt laundry_queen May 2013 #23

I wonder if Kaitlynn was straight sarisataka May 2013 #5

When I was fourteen, I was in a school play with a girl who was eighteen. NaturalHigh May 2013 #7

You have good parents sarisataka May 2013 #11

I have a 15-year-old son. NaturalHigh May 2013 #15

Most people are more accepting when a teen boy has sex with an older woman davidn3600 May 2013 #16

Most people are also more tolerant when two high school students LanternWaste May 2013 #38

Amazing generalization. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #68

I'd have cared just as much, but have strongly opposed prosecuting. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #26

Probably not. Ganja Ninja Jun 2013 #122

...and this thread... Iggo May 2013 #8

What's with the "...and this thread..." that you keep posting? NaturalHigh May 2013 #12

he/she is addicted to letting people know snooper2 May 2013 #28

Oh, got it. NaturalHigh May 2013 #30

I suppose it's a case of... Dr. Strange May 2013 #43

I disagree with the law that designates it as statutory rape. phleshdef May 2013 #10

it would have been posted as another example of so called "rape culture" galileoreloaded May 2013 #13

I imagine you're right. NaturalHigh May 2013 #14

so-called? BainsBane Jun 2013 #56

Is Kaitlin promoting rape culture? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #62

You don't understand what rape culture is BainsBane Jun 2013 #65

Well, I have seen a lot of trivializing from Ms. Hunt's parents. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #67

I agree there is a double-standard here BainsBane Jun 2013 #70

I would think that current events suggest that society doesn't excuse rape. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #69

Really? BainsBane Jun 2013 #71

great question framing for the meek, but an implied assertion isnt really....anything. galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #77

You really have difficulty answering a question BainsBane Jun 2013 #78

what do you get out of constant reframes and attempted shaming? galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #120

Paranoid much? BainsBane Jun 2013 #125

All these threads demonstrate just what a bad idea legislating sex is. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #17

I understand where you're coming from... NaturalHigh May 2013 #18

Why? By whom? Me? You? It's not that anything is OK, but trying to stop nature Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #24

Actually... NaturalHigh May 2013 #25

How do you arrive at that conclusion? Talk to nearly any good looking young woman, she can tell you Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #31

You don't think statutory rape laws keep this from happening more often? NaturalHigh May 2013 #32

But, that's exactly what happens. Lives ruined forever... Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #35

Children cannot give informed consent; having sex with children should be illegal. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #27

No sex involving a 14 year old is consentual, as 14 year olds can't give consent TransitJohn May 2013 #53

And slipping the date rape drug to your wife Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #73

I fail to see how your post applies to the topic of discussion. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #76

The post I was replying to: Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #81

Did you hurt your neck with that disconnect? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #79

Not even with another 14 year old? quakerboy Jun 2013 #107

The point is what is too young for an adult Spike89 Jun 2013 #130

How often do you hear of high school boys being prosecuted pnwmom May 2013 #19

You never hear about it. NaturalHigh May 2013 #20

What this comes down to is people's messy personal and parental lives ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #21

It's hard to argue with your post. NaturalHigh May 2013 #22

I would feel the same LostOne4Ever May 2013 #29

then the victim's character would be under assault on social media and elsewhere fishwax May 2013 #33

Would the parents have reported Kevin to the police? KamaAina May 2013 #34

Sex is really scary and a sin and decisions about it should be left to others... Demo_Chris May 2013 #36

Males get charged with this all the time madville May 2013 #37

You are right. That happens all the time. NaturalHigh May 2013 #41

men have traditionally been the most oppressed group of all. La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #39

Help, Help, I'm being repressed NewJeffCT May 2013 #45

i know right. totally unfair. i feel terrible for you. La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #49

From another GD post: NaturalHigh May 2013 #50

Should the case against an alleged sex offender be dropped because she happens to be a lesbian? NaturalHigh May 2013 #48

Kevin would have gotten quite a few pats on his back from his friends... LanternWaste May 2013 #40

I knew senior boys who dated freshman girls when I was in high school gollygee May 2013 #42

So do you think that a teenage boy in Ms. Hunt's situation... NaturalHigh May 2013 #44

No, but I don't think it would have reached prosecution gollygee May 2013 #46

Well, unfortunately, I can't disagree with you about the Steubenville comment. NaturalHigh May 2013 #47

Don't be silly customerserviceguy May 2013 #51

I hadn't thought of it like that. NaturalHigh May 2013 #52

You got it customerserviceguy May 2013 #54

When I was in university a female adjunct got nabbed with a teen girl Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2013 #61

I figured it out when I went to university nearly forty years ago customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #88

I think they just don't want to be perceived as criticizing a particular group, Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2013 #98

+1 NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #108

Good point. customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #114

The fact is lots of Kevins are charged BainsBane May 2013 #55

and was he charged with a felony? dlwickham Jun 2013 #58

Yes, he pleaded guilty to a second degree rape, a felony BainsBane Jun 2013 #59

was he dating the girl dlwickham Jun 2013 #91

good fucking god dlwickham Jun 2013 #57

I guess "rape" isn't one thing. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #60

Lets see, yet another thread to trash Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #63

Why, because it raises a question that makes you uncomfortable? NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #64

Heheh, such humility, try not to rate your "profound" dribbles to high Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #86

I don't even know what your post is trying to say. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #93

I'm supposed to be bothered? Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #94

Not at all. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #95

I think the laws are too harsh. Notafraidtoo Jun 2013 #80

That's a conversation worth having. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #82

She could have become pregnant. pnwmom Jun 2013 #83

Odds are high that Kevin did not use physical force nor impregnate a 14 year old eridani Jun 2013 #84

I'd still have the same issue with it treestar Jun 2013 #89

Actually, that's one of the lies that the Hunt family put out to the media. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #92

They knew each other before, though and it was OK to date treestar Jun 2013 #113

I don't necessarily disagree with much of anything that you posted... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #115

I understand treestar Jun 2013 #116

Frankly, I don't think it's okay for 14-year-olds to be having sex. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #117

Under the same circumstances, I'd sign-on for Kevin. Ian David Jun 2013 #103

In order for it to be the same circumstances 18 year old Kevin would have to be ... Ganja Ninja Jun 2013 #121

That's because too many of us have the same policy on homosexuality as Vivid Video. n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #123

What policy is that? NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #124

Vivid Video only has girl/girl and no guy/guy stuff. n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #126

I believe they have a subsidiary that publishes guy/guy. jeff47 Jun 2013 #131

A child is a child is a child. nt clarice Jun 2013 #127

I agree with you. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #128

And I agree with you.nt clarice Jun 2013 #129

So, sex between two 17-years-and-364-days people should be illegal? (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #132

no, not if it is consensual. nt clarice Jun 2013 #133

But they're both children. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #135

As I said. A child is a child. nt clarice Jun 2013 #136

But you also say that sex between them should not be illegal. jeff47 Jun 2013 #137

A very sticky issue to be sure. nt clarice Jun 2013 #138

They'd be clamoring to have his balls cut off. And everyone knows it. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #134

That's my opinion too. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #140

PLONK! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #139