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52. Howard Zinn says socialism is when the WORKERS own the means of their own production . . .

Tue May 28, 2013, 12:41 PM

May 2013

That's somewhere in chapter 14, I think, in A People's History of the United States, in which he discusses the widespread strikes and deep Labor unrest of about the first half of the 20th century.

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Howard Zinn says socialism is when the WORKERS own the means of their own production . . . patrice May 2013 #52

but joining the military for benefits & a secure job supports the inclination to WAR. nt patrice May 2013 #51