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In reply to the discussion: Kaitlyn Hunt's mother under attack by bloggers who say 'Free Kate' is all lies [View all]roughrider101
(35 posts)174. You're making the point wrong in the beginning
As a high school teacher there was absolutely no distinction between students who were 17 and students who were 18-21 in my classroom
Ok, would there be a distinction between an 18 year old student and 14 year old one?
Yes, there are legal markers that happen when you turn 18 (and 21), but passing through those markers have very little real impact on whether you feel like (and interact with others as) a child or an adult.
Which is why there is typically a middle threshold of 16.
But this is the problem...you cant write laws to make subjective 'adulthood' and 'childhood'. The only way it can be done in a reasonable way is to use 'markers'. I am sure there are many very immature 19 year olds that have what I might find the maturity level of a 15 year old. Does this mean I can then strip that person of their rights as an adult, because I deem them immature? Who would judge this? We would need to have every person go through a yearly adjudication process where a judge decides if they are mature enough to be a legal adult? This is way too messy and subjective...hence the markers.
Exceptions are also made for 18-year-old residents who are still in high school, provided they have a "reasonable expectation of graduation before the age of 19."
Ok, now we are getting somewhere, as the other stuff we are arguing is just opinion and has no legal standing. This would be the foundation for a defense........if......that is what Florida Statutes Title XLIII, Chapter 743.07 said. It's not.
The quote you got of "e-how" is not the full text, but a 'cut up' of two sections of the statute.
The full text is:
743.07?Rights, privileges, and obligations of persons 18 years of age or older.
(1)?The disability of nonage is hereby removed for all persons in this state who are 18 years of age or older, and they shall enjoy and suffer the rights, privileges, and obligations of all persons 21 years of age or older except as otherwise excluded by the State Constitution immediately preceding the effective date of this section and except as otherwise provided in the Beverage Law.
(2)?This section shall not prohibit any court of competent jurisdiction from requiring support for a dependent person beyond the age of 18 years when such dependency is because of a mental or physical incapacity which began prior to such person reaching majority or if the person is dependent in fact, is between the ages of 18 and 19, and is still in high school, performing in good faith with a reasonable expectation of graduation before the age of 19.
(3)?This section shall operate prospectively and not retrospectively, and shall not affect the rights and obligations existing prior to July 1, 1973.
http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/743.07
The High School 'exception' in the statute does not apply to or make except anything to do with rights, privileges, and obligations. What it does do is allow for a count to possibly require financial support to a dependent person beyond the age of 18 years, until they finish high school. It's not relevant then to the case at hand or to a criminal charge.
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Kaitlyn Hunt's mother under attack by bloggers who say 'Free Kate' is all lies [View all]
shawn703
May 2013
OP
The whole thing stinks. If there is smoke then there is fire. I still think it has
southernyankeebelle
May 2013
#1
Well I really am not following it to closely. I just hope the girl doesn't go to jail and they
southernyankeebelle
May 2013
#49
I don't think so. They probably wouldn't have warned the older one more than once first....
Honeycombe8
May 2013
#7
if you're referring to Jerry Seinfeld his minor was over the age of consent
magical thyme
May 2013
#17
When sex between two kids is referred to as "lewd & lascivious", I stop reading & dismiss
pacalo
May 2013
#3
The law is the law. The 18 year old was asked more than once to leave the child alone....
Honeycombe8
May 2013
#5
I'm not about to defend the sneaking out at night; it's a parent's nightmare for the reasons
pacalo
May 2013
#15
I think it's about time to state the obvious. Romeo and Juliet are not actually people.
LisaL
May 2013
#104
How would her life be destroyed by a plea deal that included no jail time and no sex offender
LisaL
May 2013
#115
Then by your logic, a 20-year-old hooking up with a 14-year-old would be okay?
NaturalHigh
May 2013
#130
And of course people indignantly deny that there's any *hint* of bias at work.
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#21
No actual stats, but I can think of worse cases than that where nothing ever happened to the guy.
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#23
No, I'm putting my own interpretation to a somewhat ambiguous situation.
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#34
If you trust the word of Christian fundamentalists who think Kaitlyn "made their daughter gay"
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#135
at my high school, one of the girls in my class was having a relationship with a teacher,
HiPointDem
May 2013
#35
FYI...one blogger leading this charge about all this being a lie is a known far-right winger
davidn3600
May 2013
#37
18 and 14 is not child molestation...especially when it was just turned 18 and almost 15.
alphafemale
May 2013
#40
Never mind the fact that that is the only station--the only reporter even, that they will talk
ScreamingMeemie
May 2013
#68
How well did you listen to your parents when they told you to stay away from someone?
we can do it
May 2013
#159
I don't see any evidence that parents of a 14 year old didn't try to control their child.
LisaL
May 2013
#60
It's their child, not yours. These people are following the law. They are fully within their rights
LisaL
May 2013
#96
The problem is Kate picked up the 14 year old at night without the girls parents knowledge
dkf
May 2013
#152
Now there's a charming euphemism for "an adult having sex with a child".
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#84
What vast majority of states? And how many years difference are we talking about in this
LisaL
May 2013
#113
Frankly, I don't care if people know what it is like to be 18 or not.
AnalystInParadise
May 2013
#162
High school seniors dont get arrested for having relationships with freshmen
roughrider101
May 2013
#136