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In reply to the discussion: Judge: Zimmerman Lawyers Can't Put Trayvon Martin on Trial [View all]wercal
(1,370 posts)42. Where do I start
"What I recounted REALLY happened"
Actually I didn't want to mention it before, but that is not entirely true. Your statement: "Zimmerman left his vehicle, against the instructions of 911 personnel" is not true. If you listen to the tapes, the operator asks him if he is following Martin, and tells him not to ("you don't need to do that"
And "and tapes indicate he was a racist" will have to be backed up with an actual quote from the tapes...as I suspect you are referring to the edited version used by the media, while the original recording is far less damning. So I believe that to be an innaccurate statement as well.
On to whether or not he followed other people in the past...black, white whatever. Zimmerman's history of being a nosey busy body who called 911 at the drop of a hat is going to work in his favor, as far as a 2nd degree murder charge is concerned - not the other way around. If the defense can establish that he has indeed followed other people in the past, without a homocide, the litmus test for gross negligence is blown out of the water.
Your final paragraph presumes that Zimmerman has gone through some sort of formal neighborhood watch training...and his violation of that training establishes willful negligence. However, the general concensus is that he was not part of an official watch program, and I have never read that he had any training. As screwed up as it sounds, this works in his favor.
I believe that if this had been a manslaughter charge, the defense would have been sufficiently spooked enough to seek a plea deal, Zimmerman may have spent 15 years in prison, and there never would have been a trial. However, now that they are going all in on a 2nd degree murder charge, the state is very much at risk of not winning...and Zimmerman goes free.
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1. You are ASSuming, "there's way more"; 2. Appeal?! On what grounds?! NONE of this "leak" is
WinkyDink
May 2013
#12
Sounds like Customerserviceguy is saying the defense it trying to cover all its bases.
freedom fighter jh
May 2013
#14
That's great and all, but they leaked all that crap to the local media already and the
winterpark
May 2013
#6
Anybody with a BRAIN knows that marijuana doesn't make a person violent! And the prosecutors have
WinkyDink
May 2013
#13
I am disappointed that you would disparage the defense. Not an attitude I expect
rhett o rick
May 2013
#47
+1,000. If any laundry comes out, put it all out. But I'm betting neither will be permitted.
freshwest
May 2013
#43
Good! I couldn't believe what I was hearing re bringing all of this stuff in. Yay Judge! nt.
polly7
May 2013
#26
their plan was to poison the jury pool with info they knew would not be admissible in court
ZRT2209
May 2013
#29
With Fox Noise playing the same tune in the background, jury selection will be hard.
freshwest
May 2013
#44
Yeap, the victim wasn't perfect so they deserved to die defense...it's overtly stupid
uponit7771
May 2013
#41