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DreamGypsy

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Tue May 28, 2013, 03:49 PM May 2013

In less than 6 months since Newtown, more Americans have been killed with guns in our streets... [View all]

...homes, shops, schools, and nurseries, etc, then U.S. Military personnel were killed in the Iraq War (Operation Iraqi 'Freedom') in the more than 7 years between March 19, 2003 and August 31, 2010.

The current count on the Slate site How Many People Have Been Killed by Guns Since Newtown? now reads: Matched Deaths: 4,410 or more since Newtown

The U.S. Department of Defense lists OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM (OIF) U.S. CASUALTY STATUS * FATALITIES AS OF: May 28, 2013, 10 a.m. EDT at 4,409,
where * OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM includes casualties that occurred between March 19, 2003, and August
31, 2010, in the Arabian Sea, Bahrain, Gulf of Aden, Gulf of Oman, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Persian Gulf,
Qatar, Red Sea, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates.

Of course, U.S. military deaths represent a fraction of the carnage and upheaval of the Iraq war. Also, the current 66 deaths in Operation New Dawn are not included.

What a coincidence, the two numbers differing by 1 with that being the single death so far reported for today,
May, 28, 2013. A fairly typical report from Fort Worth, Texas:

A 72-year-old man was fatally shot as Fort Worth police investigated an alarm call early Tuesday morning in a neighborhood near the Woodhaven County Club.

According to Fort Worth police, authorities responded to the alarm call just before 1 a.m. in the 400 block of North Havenwood Lane. Upon arriving to the scene, officers become involved in a confrontation with a man armed with a gun. Feeling threatened, at least one officer fired at the man, who was later identified by a neighbor as Jerry Waller, police said. Waller died at the scene.

Becky Haskin, a former city council member, lives nearby and said she and her husband heard five rapid shots. Haskin said she believes Waller heard the alarm and went to the house armed to investigate.

Haskin said there was no sign of a burglary at the home and that the alarm may have triggered accidentally.


Just did a refresh on the Slate page, still at 4410.

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complete utter madness samsingh May 2013 #1
They'll Also Shoot You For Questioning Their Right SoCalMusicLover May 2013 #2
and then there's their ridiculous circular arguments samsingh May 2013 #21
Nice fruit basket. ntt rrneck May 2013 #3
There are lots who do not care as long as they have easy access to their guns. Hoyt May 2013 #4
Are we counting police shootings now? LAGC May 2013 #5
Jumping to conclusions is fine exercise ... DreamGypsy May 2013 #7
I fear a nut with a gun in a public setting far more than I fear al Qaeda. Initech May 2013 #6
I have a huge fear of crazy white men. Pragdem May 2013 #13
Does this include suicides? premium May 2013 #8
That's a good question. And the answer is not entirely clear... DreamGypsy May 2013 #9
Thanks. premium May 2013 #10
Thanks for your question and comment. DreamGypsy May 2013 #16
Another thing to consider premium May 2013 #17
This is an excellent "apples and oranges" comparison aikoaiko May 2013 #11
Yes, definitely very different situations... DreamGypsy May 2013 #14
Guns belong on the battlefield. In this libertarian paradise called America... Pragdem May 2013 #12
The VA says there were an estimated 8,030 suicides among vets in 2010, an increase from 7,300 in 200 newmember May 2013 #15
Right, and the overall suicide rate in the U.S. is increasing as well. DreamGypsy May 2013 #19
The economy, premium May 2013 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #18
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