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In reply to the discussion: Kaitlyn Hunt's mother under attack by bloggers who say 'Free Kate' is all lies [View all]roughrider101
(35 posts)177. So are all laws. You dont want subjective laws do you?
Age 18 is an arbitrary day-in-the-life, and has no real life meaning other than being an arbitrary date at which one's legal status changes for a number of things.
And so is a BAC of .08. Is someone who blows a point .08 intoxicated and someone who blows a .07 not? Why?
It has very big life meaning...its when you turn 18 that you gain a ton of new rights. If that had no meaning to you, so be it, I personally felt having the right to vote was a huge deal.
Like I said repeatedly though, there is the 16 threshold as well, so no, it is not sudden. You dont go from Juvenile to Adult overnight. After turning 16 you are no longer a Juvenile..and you got a whole two years to get ready for 18.
This still ignores what i said, in that how do you propose to change the laws then? Are you going to have each person adjudicated yearly to determine their adulthood? Some people will become legal adults at 18, some at 23, some at 13 based on how mature the judge thinks you are? No, that is ridiculous, so we establish objective age markers that determine these things.
Do you have a better idea?
If you are going to argue that unless an 18 year old graduates high school they do not get the same rights as an adult, ok, argue that. However, thus far I havent gotten any idea what exactly you would do differently.
as a teacher I did treat 14 year old students in the same manner as I treated 21 year old students (I regularly had 18-21, and in a few instances 22 year old students, who had not accumulated enough credits to graduate).
I'm actually amazed by that. That is just depressing. I am surprised such people are not placed in a GED program or special school by then or something.
I know my daughter was not treated differently as a 12th grader than she was as a 9th grader.
I find this hard to believe.
But skipping the anecdotes.....are you saying that if you caught one of your 22 year old students having digital penetration in the bathroom with one of your 14 year old students, you would treat it the same as if it was with two 16 year old students? If not, why not? That seems the logical conclusion implied.
Also, the the reasoning you expressed it should not be illegal for a 22 year old to have sex with a 14 year old, provided they are both high school students.
Is this what you are saying?
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Kaitlyn Hunt's mother under attack by bloggers who say 'Free Kate' is all lies [View all]
shawn703
May 2013
OP
The whole thing stinks. If there is smoke then there is fire. I still think it has
southernyankeebelle
May 2013
#1
Well I really am not following it to closely. I just hope the girl doesn't go to jail and they
southernyankeebelle
May 2013
#49
I don't think so. They probably wouldn't have warned the older one more than once first....
Honeycombe8
May 2013
#7
if you're referring to Jerry Seinfeld his minor was over the age of consent
magical thyme
May 2013
#17
When sex between two kids is referred to as "lewd & lascivious", I stop reading & dismiss
pacalo
May 2013
#3
The law is the law. The 18 year old was asked more than once to leave the child alone....
Honeycombe8
May 2013
#5
I'm not about to defend the sneaking out at night; it's a parent's nightmare for the reasons
pacalo
May 2013
#15
I think it's about time to state the obvious. Romeo and Juliet are not actually people.
LisaL
May 2013
#104
How would her life be destroyed by a plea deal that included no jail time and no sex offender
LisaL
May 2013
#115
Then by your logic, a 20-year-old hooking up with a 14-year-old would be okay?
NaturalHigh
May 2013
#130
And of course people indignantly deny that there's any *hint* of bias at work.
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#21
No actual stats, but I can think of worse cases than that where nothing ever happened to the guy.
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#23
No, I'm putting my own interpretation to a somewhat ambiguous situation.
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#34
If you trust the word of Christian fundamentalists who think Kaitlyn "made their daughter gay"
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#135
at my high school, one of the girls in my class was having a relationship with a teacher,
HiPointDem
May 2013
#35
FYI...one blogger leading this charge about all this being a lie is a known far-right winger
davidn3600
May 2013
#37
18 and 14 is not child molestation...especially when it was just turned 18 and almost 15.
alphafemale
May 2013
#40
Never mind the fact that that is the only station--the only reporter even, that they will talk
ScreamingMeemie
May 2013
#68
How well did you listen to your parents when they told you to stay away from someone?
we can do it
May 2013
#159
I don't see any evidence that parents of a 14 year old didn't try to control their child.
LisaL
May 2013
#60
It's their child, not yours. These people are following the law. They are fully within their rights
LisaL
May 2013
#96
The problem is Kate picked up the 14 year old at night without the girls parents knowledge
dkf
May 2013
#152
Now there's a charming euphemism for "an adult having sex with a child".
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#84
What vast majority of states? And how many years difference are we talking about in this
LisaL
May 2013
#113
Frankly, I don't care if people know what it is like to be 18 or not.
AnalystInParadise
May 2013
#162
High school seniors dont get arrested for having relationships with freshmen
roughrider101
May 2013
#136