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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #175)

Tue May 28, 2013, 05:35 PM

177. So are all laws. You dont want subjective laws do you?

Age 18 is an arbitrary day-in-the-life, and has no real life meaning other than being an arbitrary date at which one's legal status changes for a number of things.


And so is a BAC of .08. Is someone who blows a point .08 intoxicated and someone who blows a .07 not? Why?
It has very big life meaning...its when you turn 18 that you gain a ton of new rights. If that had no meaning to you, so be it, I personally felt having the right to vote was a huge deal.
Like I said repeatedly though, there is the 16 threshold as well, so no, it is not sudden. You dont go from Juvenile to Adult overnight. After turning 16 you are no longer a Juvenile..and you got a whole two years to get ready for 18.

This still ignores what i said, in that how do you propose to change the laws then? Are you going to have each person adjudicated yearly to determine their adulthood? Some people will become legal adults at 18, some at 23, some at 13 based on how mature the judge thinks you are? No, that is ridiculous, so we establish objective age markers that determine these things.
Do you have a better idea?
If you are going to argue that unless an 18 year old graduates high school they do not get the same rights as an adult, ok, argue that. However, thus far I havent gotten any idea what exactly you would do differently.

as a teacher I did treat 14 year old students in the same manner as I treated 21 year old students (I regularly had 18-21, and in a few instances 22 year old students, who had not accumulated enough credits to graduate).


I'm actually amazed by that. That is just depressing. I am surprised such people are not placed in a GED program or special school by then or something.

I know my daughter was not treated differently as a 12th grader than she was as a 9th grader.


I find this hard to believe.

But skipping the anecdotes.....are you saying that if you caught one of your 22 year old students having digital penetration in the bathroom with one of your 14 year old students, you would treat it the same as if it was with two 16 year old students? If not, why not? That seems the logical conclusion implied.
Also, the the reasoning you expressed it should not be illegal for a 22 year old to have sex with a 14 year old, provided they are both high school students.

Is this what you are saying?

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