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82. Our 17 year old older daughter enlisting in the Military

Tue May 28, 2013, 06:54 PM

May 2013

After HS graduation in 1996 (not 47 years ago), she wanted to enlist in the Air Force. Yes, since she wasn't 18 we her parents had to give our permission, BUT she also had to sign on the bottom line even as a Minor of 17. She had 6 weeks to sign her enlistment. She changed her mind and refused to do so despite a lot of "encouragement" on the part of the Military.

So since we as her parents had signed her up, why wasn't it a done deal? Why did she as a Minor still have to sign? They could not take her in the Military either without our permission, or her's. Isn't it not legal for a Minor to sign a contact? Since as her legal guardians who had signed that contract, why couldn't the Military just take her without her signing that contract?

Think about that one parents, who think they have ultimate control.

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Nice strawman. JVS May 2013 #35

How is sticking with the discussion a "strawman"? Matariki May 2013 #106

Look up strawman. JVS May 2013 #113

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Still a strawman. It addresses a statement I didn't make. And your point sucks. JVS May 2013 #126

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Abstinance only does ignore the reality of teen behavior FrodosPet May 2013 #129

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