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36. It's called hate, and it is ok when directed at some

Tue May 28, 2013, 07:59 PM

May 2013

If I say a bunch of fundie christians are influencing government policy...cheers for bringing out that info and people lamenting it. Say the same about another religious group - and you are promoting hate (I won't say which religious group because that would bring out people saying I am a hater).

Say something about Muslims being killed over their faith? For shame and how terrible that people would do such a thing.

Want to hate on a group? There is one that we liberals and progressive can jump on without feeling guilt or feeling like we are the same as the RW and what they say. Christians. Bash, hate em, call em out, ignore any good they have done in the world and have at em.

Because, like black people and muslims to the rw, what some do is representative of them all.

We just get to claim it is all ok when we do it though because we don't 'hate' we just bring up things negative about a group whenever possible.

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Vatican: 100,000 Christians are killed every year for their faith [View all] Playinghardball May 2013 OP

another reason to dump 'faith'...... bowens43 May 2013 #1

They should dump their faith because they might get killed for it? I think not! hrmjustin May 2013 #3

That's right. They should conform to be just like you BainsBane May 2013 #28

Some of the responses in this thread are just insane! hrmjustin May 2013 #30

It shows that too many people are intolerant BainsBane May 2013 #31

"Religious intolerance, homophobia, racism, and sexism all come from the same impulse" alp227 May 2013 #47

No BainsBane May 2013 #48

I believe in the 1st amendment, and I don't like organized religion. alp227 May 2013 #68

You can be personally intolerant of anyone you want BainsBane May 2013 #71

So I wonder how pipi_k May 2013 #89

If you suggest legal discrimination or murder BainsBane May 2013 #90

I'm not talking about pipi_k May 2013 #95

False BainsBane May 2013 #104

100,000???? sound like some creative accounting to me dembotoz May 2013 #2

I would love to know how they came up with the number. hrmjustin May 2013 #5

Sheeeit! Mah cousin kills a couple dozen of them each year; 'specially thems that comes to the byeya May 2013 #20

Um not very funny! hrmjustin May 2013 #21

Right. Everyone knows temporary311 May 2013 #51

Ah sure whatever. hrmjustin May 2013 #52

Divine hubris. defacto7 May 2013 #72

Nice to know the Catholic Church is opposed to rape... brooklynite May 2013 #4

Sadly the different religions JNelson6563 May 2013 #6

What sort of people can have 100k of their own murdered and make their priority Bluenorthwest May 2013 #7

Does the Vatican know how many people worldwide were killed BY Christians? MineralMan May 2013 #8

That would be a thing I would like to know. hrmjustin May 2013 #10

Well - would you make a distinction between military members who happened to be Christians el_bryanto May 2013 #12

Does their number include Christians killed by acts of God? defacto7 May 2013 #73

+71 burnodo May 2013 #82

Zero. trotsky May 2013 #102

I'm assuming those numbers were pulled out of his ass? Apophis May 2013 #9

would that be his holy ass or an ass with a hole in it. dembotoz May 2013 #15

If they are going to give a number like this they should explain how they got the number. hrmjustin May 2013 #11

Its maybe a minor thing, but this is another example of lazy shitty reporting. el_bryanto May 2013 #13

I would not doubt a 20,000-50,000 number but 100,000 seems like he picked it out of a hat. hrmjustin May 2013 #14

It seems to be a continuation of a claim of 105,000 that was made in 2011 muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #38

Thanks for posting this! It appears he had an agenda so the numbers are seem inflated. hrmjustin May 2013 #39

Or, like someone else suggested... pipi_k May 2013 #91

Well I can't give you those names but people do get killed for their religious beliefs everyday. hrmjustin May 2013 #92

They do, but... pipi_k May 2013 #96

Oh I agree. hrmjustin May 2013 #97

The Persecutor(Vatican) is playing the victim again. Dawson Leery May 2013 #16

There are some old line Orthodox Christians who have been attacked recently Dawson Leery May 2013 #17

Coptics and the RCC have had good relations recently. hrmjustin May 2013 #25

Oh, nonsense. Phony numbers from those who burned Galileo closeupready May 2013 #18

Horseshit! ((Cough)) Floyd_Gondolli May 2013 #19

The Figures Are Indeed, Sir, 'Incredible' And 'Shocking' The Magistrate May 2013 #22

Aren't Martyrs supposed to go right to heaven? cliffordu May 2013 #23

Being killed for your faith is not a good thing!!! hrmjustin May 2013 #24

that comment is beneath you arely staircase May 2013 #27

No it ain't beneath me. Little is. False pride ain't my sin. cliffordu May 2013 #32

that is your personal belief or arely staircase May 2013 #33

If folks believed they are saved for all eternity, the sting of death means nothing. cliffordu May 2013 #43

doesn't make murder right arely staircase May 2013 #45

Christians do not purposely look to get themselves killed. hrmjustin May 2013 #46

So um, how many kids were/are abused annually b/c of their faith? MichiganVote May 2013 #26

How about supporting human rights regardless BainsBane May 2013 #29

I think that the RCC has called itself a victim far too many times MichiganVote May 2013 #34

So that means you have no problem with the murder of Catholics? BainsBane May 2013 #37

Kinda not what people are saying, cliffordu May 2013 #44

Yeah that seems to sum it up for you. But I doubt others will agree with you. MichiganVote May 2013 #49

And how about starting Le Taz Hot May 2013 #79

Can't we all agree that no matter what the number that Christians like people of other faiths hrmjustin May 2013 #35

It's called hate, and it is ok when directed at some The Straight Story May 2013 #36

thank you arely staircase May 2013 #41

Very true! hrmjustin May 2013 #42

Well said, and true. cordelia May 2013 #81

This is DU leftynyc May 2013 #80

One thing I don't pipi_k May 2013 #98

I would not deny Christ even if it meant my death! hrmjustin May 2013 #99

Well OK then... pipi_k May 2013 #105

Faith is hard to explain and all I can say is I believe in Jesus with all my heart. hrmjustin May 2013 #107

Would you deny Christ if, in theory, someone else's life was on the line? closeupready May 2013 #111

I don't know! I might just say what I have to, to save anothers life. I think God would not be angry hrmjustin May 2013 #113

Thanks. closeupready May 2013 #114

I think we can agree on that. trotsky May 2013 #106

Yes so called religous people that love God so much that they have to kill someone to show hrmjustin May 2013 #108

Nothing "so-called" about them. trotsky May 2013 #109

No I am not saying that they are atheists. My apologies for not being clear. hrmjustin May 2013 #112

It happens, but that sounds like an awful lot treestar May 2013 #40

The source of this number is the sociologist Massimo Introvigne. rug May 2013 #50

It's funny to see how support for minorities and the downtrodden, closeupready May 2013 #53

I thought that there were just as many Muslims as there are Christians. hrmjustin May 2013 #55

"thousands [of Christians] get killed every year" - how do you know that? closeupready May 2013 #60

Syria, Nigeria, Iraq, Egypt. hrmjustin May 2013 #61

If that's what you think is science, your faith does closeupready May 2013 #62

I never agreed with the 100,000 number. more likely 10,000-20,000 a year. hrmjustin May 2013 #63

Yes, it does bother me that religionists are killed for their beliefs. closeupready May 2013 #64

Unfortunately there are no hard numbers from Nigeria or any other of these countries. hrmjustin May 2013 #65

it doesn't seem to bother some around here arely staircase May 2013 #66

Some people think persecution of Christians is only a minor problem but it is dangerous to be hrmjustin May 2013 #67

I'm thinking Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2013 #54

Rephrased to 100,000 Christians died in sectarian conflicts, prepared to believe it. dimbear May 2013 #56

I might buy a tenth that amount Warpy May 2013 #57

Is that in the US? jazzimov May 2013 #58

100,000 is a high number. But Christians as Muslims die for their faith in Asia and Africa the most. hrmjustin May 2013 #59

If Christians are being killed for their faith in Africa, why are many African Christians Bluenorthwest May 2013 #93

I wish they would stop with the Anti-gay stuff. It breaks my heart that many of these anti-gay hrmjustin May 2013 #94

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!! Zoeisright May 2013 #69

I agree the numbers are too high. But the issue is a serious one. People of all faiths everyday for hrmjustin May 2013 #70

So if people toss their faith and stop believing in things that don't exist defacto7 May 2013 #74

No I think they would still kill one another if they gave up their faith. hrmjustin May 2013 #85

I really wish people did not feel the need to set themselves apart in such groups Skittles May 2013 #76

Killed by other fools that are just as certain that their delusions are reality. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #77

I'd still love to see some hard data burnodo May 2013 #83

Me, too - and I've asked and asked and asked, but closeupready May 2013 #84

I agree that they certainly can be numbers pulled out of a hat. hrmjustin May 2013 #86

No need for apologies - we are having an adult discussion, and closeupready May 2013 #87

Hugs!!! hrmjustin May 2013 #88

Oh my, another religious zealot lying. Who would have believed it? Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #75

It is good to know they keep statistics, some other numbers I am curious about from the Vatican. gordianot May 2013 #78

Not DU's finest hour. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #100

That's a lot of cannibal pots! Tom Ripley May 2013 #101

If you are going to make stuff up why not say a bajillion? Vinnie From Indy May 2013 #103

at least they don't feed them to lions anymore datasuspect May 2013 #110

Kill a jew - anti-semetic. Kill 1000 or more christians and we hear "Yeah, but..." The Straight Story May 2013 #115