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In reply to the discussion: You tell me OWS is dead.... [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)politicians who are even more far to the right than the already far right Republican Party. THAT was the REASON for their existence. They were funded for that purpose, they posed as a 'grass roots' movement which they were NOT.
Just how does such a phony, political group in any way compare to a real Grass Roots movement whose goals were to ENLIGHTEN people to the facts about MONEY IN POLITICS. OWS never even pretended to be a political organization.
They accomplished their goals, in fact they went way beyond what they set out to do and never intended to be around for more than two weeks at most and in only one city, NY. The fact that they became such a force, they they spread so rapidly across the country, that they changed the dialogue so fast, that they are now a Global Movement more active today than they were at the beginning, that they were joined by so many other workers' organizations, demonstrates the NEED there is for such a movement.
There is no way to compare the fake 'TP' to a Social Justice Movement like OWS whose whole message was about money in politics which makes your demand that they do what they most opposed, try to become what IS the problem, just well, ridiculous. To get elected in this country one must now take outrageous amounts of money from Big Corps, from Wall St. Why on earth would an organization that is trying to CHANGE that work FOR what they most oppose??
Comparing the TP to OWS is like comparing the Young Republicans to the Civil Rights Movement.
The TP did not 'accomplish' anything. They were nothing more than a well funded political operation working as they always do, to get their party elected. That is the job of political organizations. It is NOT the job of a Social Justice movement. A SJ Movement works to change how things are where change is needed and electing more of the same old politicians all of whom are funded by and beholden to Big Business is NOT going to accomplish anything.
OWS will be around for a long time because there is a NEED for such a movement now. They will and have been evolving over time. It will take years before those changes are accomplished. It took years for the Civil Rights Movement to make the changes that were needed and they still have work to do.
What exactly did you think the goals of OWS were? Did you really think THEY expected to accomplish their goals in a matter of weeks, months? It took DECADES to get to the point where such a movement became necessary, it may take even more than that to turn things around.
OWS is only the beginning of what will be a very, very long process. But at least that process has now BEGUN. There was NOTHING before them.
The TP is nothing more than just another political organization doing short term damage to the country by helping get more of the same morons elected. THAT is NOT an 'accomplishment'. It is a disaster. If OWS wanted to contribute to the downslide of this country they could have easily done what the TP and done it better. But THAT WAS NEVER THE GOAL.
It is astounding how little some people here ever understood what this movement was about. And it's not as if their very name didn't send the message. They were very clear, for those paying attention, about their goals and so far, have accomplished all of those goals they set out to accomplish. NOW since they were so much more successful than they ever anticipated, they have gone further, evolved, and are in a second phase of the movement.