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Luminous Animal

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25. I don't read your self-referential blue links. Too much propaganda to slog through.

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New York Times Won't Attend Off-The-Record Eric Holder Meeting - NYT [View all] WillyT May 2013 OP

I'm proud of this administration! MannyGoldstein May 2013 #1

:evilgrin: WillyT May 2013 #3

...... madfloridian May 2013 #8

And many here don't get it nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #16

Huzzah for our side Manny! Safetykitten May 2013 #63

Posturing ProSense May 2013 #2

Yeah That Damned NYT And WaPo... The Pentagon Papers... The Watergate Scandal... WillyT May 2013 #12

Two words: ProSense May 2013 #15

I Do Not Stand With These, Or Any, Media 100% Of The Time, But... WillyT May 2013 #21

And yet the 4th estate and the 1st amendment can and will continue to function as always. phleshdef May 2013 #55

Sorry... I Disagree... Even Nixon Was Talked Down From This... WillyT May 2013 #85

The government can ALWAYS go after reporters if there is evidence they committed a crime. randome May 2013 #88

Fuck Nixon. Nixon is a whole different story. And who is "going after" reporters? phleshdef May 2013 #90

So... Give Us Your Opinion Of Daniel Ellsberg... WillyT May 2013 #92

I pretty much already did. phleshdef May 2013 #95

You Are A Good Amerikan... Have A Pat On The Back... WillyT May 2013 #96

My position is legally, ethically and morally sound. phleshdef May 2013 #97

Good for you. You have thought things through an unbiased mind. asjr May 2013 #129

"Thanks to the NYT reporting nearly 1 million people were killed" MotherPetrie May 2013 #29

oh for fuck's sake. your defense shit is just sad and pathetic. cali May 2013 #31

Tough fucking shit ProSense May 2013 #36

Calm Down... WillyT May 2013 #41

Actually, ProSense May 2013 #47

Great. Good to know towing that barge up the river denial does not exhaust you. Safetykitten May 2013 #60

Oh look ProSense May 2013 #81

The defense as presented is fairly ironclad and irrefutable. phleshdef May 2013 #57

Wha... ?? WillyT May 2013 #65

I'd like to see that "proof". If they could wave it at a reporter, they certainly could allow the Luminous Animal May 2013 #17

Here is the ProSense May 2013 #23

I don't read your self-referential blue links. Too much propaganda to slog through. Luminous Animal May 2013 #25

Cop out. You read my comments, though. ProSense May 2013 #39

Yes. I will read your original posts and your comments. I won't click on your blue links that link Luminous Animal May 2013 #51

In all fairness, hughee99 May 2013 #86

:) Luminous Animal May 2013 #105

there are millions of off the record meetings in the history of the US. NY Times are hypocrites graham4anything May 2013 #4

Go get 'em, tiger! MannyGoldstein May 2013 #6

Just another member of the millionaire press corps One of the 99 May 2013 #5

I guess the first does not apply to you then nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #13

No I'm an average person One of the 99 May 2013 #111

Phew, the first still applies to you then nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #113

Give me a break One of the 99 May 2013 #115

I will give you a break nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #116

No I don't think the millionaire press corp should have right above the average citizen. One of the 99 May 2013 #119

They don't, that is the point that you are missing by more than nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #121

You're the one missing the point. One of the 99 May 2013 #124

Given that most reporters are all but millionaires nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #126

A skewed view of rights One of the 99 May 2013 #128

You keep saying what is not being written at all nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #131

I keep saying it One of the 99 May 2013 #134

And what rights and privileges would those be? Luminous Animal May 2013 #19

To lie about Al Gore One of the 99 May 2013 #112

What exactly did the AP do? nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #117

The didn't expose the lies One of the 99 May 2013 #118

I did before, in another post nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #122

Stalinist??? One of the 99 May 2013 #125

Actually I do nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #127

And when have I advocated taking control of the press? One of the 99 May 2013 #130

Coming from someone repeating what is not being said that is all kinds of funny nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #132

Please it is exactly how they are acting. One of the 99 May 2013 #135

Fuck the NYT, they made sure GWB got elected in 2004! Rex May 2013 #7

And it's more than Judith Miller ProSense May 2013 #9

So why didn't Obama/Holder's DOJ prosecute those responsible for the torture? MotherPetrie May 2013 #35

The Times endorsed John Kerry. Luminous Animal May 2013 #10

"By the time the Swift Boat story had played out... ProSense May 2013 #33

how? they endorsed kerry and criticized bush multiple times La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #20

fuck lying piles of steaming dogshit cali May 2013 #34

They held back on the warrantless wiretapping story CJCRANE May 2013 #82

Fuck 'em Cali_Democrat May 2013 #11

If this happened under bush I am sure you nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #14

yeah. its amazing how malleable principles can be La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #22

Yup, especially ProSense May 2013 #26

Yeah, it is. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #30

Exactly! n/t ProSense May 2013 #18

There are quite a few organizations who are fighting back on these "legal" abuses concocted by Bush Luminous Animal May 2013 #24

What about ProSense May 2013 #28

What? Stories don't just come to reporters in the middle of the night? nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #32

Title 18, United States Code Section 793(d) Cali_Democrat May 2013 #38

My dear this is silly at this point nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #40

The law is silly? Cali_Democrat May 2013 #44

So perhaps we need to have all stories approved by the state? nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #45

Rosen broke the law prior to publication of the story Cali_Democrat May 2013 #50

Aren't we the civil libertarians today...NOT!!! nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #52

Jesus Christ. Rosen didn't do what any investigative reporters do. Cultivate sources, squeeze info, Luminous Animal May 2013 #61

Jesus Christ. What part of section 793(d) do you not understand? Cali_Democrat May 2013 #66

It looks like you agree with Nixon that The New York Times should have been prosecuted for the Luminous Animal May 2013 #71

793(e) is not 793(d) Cali_Democrat May 2013 #72

You know, judges are rolling over for these secret warrents and it has got to stop. Luminous Animal May 2013 #98

Also, Cali_Democrat May 2013 #79

It has been well-established that reporters are not breaking the law when they publish classified Luminous Animal May 2013 #53

"It has been well-established that" Cali_Democrat May 2013 #56

No. Nixon tried to make it a crime to solicit and publish. He failed. And nowhere in your linked Luminous Animal May 2013 #67

The law does not distinguish between reporters and other people Cali_Democrat May 2013 #68

I don't see where it says "solicit" in that. BlueCheese May 2013 #80

All this unpleasantness could be avoided if the press simply learned not to upset the Government. Nye Bevan May 2013 #27

LOL !!! ... + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT May 2013 #37

Good for them. nt Honeycombe8 May 2013 #42

UPDATE: Associated Press, Huffington Post will NOT attend if "off the record" either. nt Poll_Blind May 2013 #43

That should give a message to the DOJ nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #46

Meh. Huffpo is just another RW rag, amiright? n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #49

Fuck the NYT. Stenographers for GWB and his Iraq War. Now pretending DevonRex May 2013 #48

Yeah. Shut 'em down. Seize their assets. Nye Bevan May 2013 #73

They were a mouthpiece newspaper for Bush. Funny how DevonRex May 2013 #104

Too funny. cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #107

Check out why he wanted the info. To influence the State Department. DevonRex May 2013 #108

People seem to not care at all about that. Rex May 2013 #109

Thank goodness DevonRex May 2013 #110

Now this is stupid. The press does not see that is is good for us? For them? Safetykitten May 2013 #54

And It Is Fascinating How Many So-Called Democrats, Progressives, And Liberals... Support This... WillyT May 2013 #62

OUTRAGE! Oh...us....nevermind. Safetykitten May 2013 #64

Some of us ProSense May 2013 #70

And I Too Hate This... But... As Long As The Press... Considers Fox To Be A Part Of The Press... WillyT May 2013 #74

And ProSense May 2013 #77

Don't they realize it's our team that's in office right now? BlueCheese May 2013 #58

Oh They Realize It... They Just Don't Want To Acknowledge It At All... WillyT May 2013 #76

The 'all or nothing' posts on this are absurd. It seems to some that the Press will never be wrong. randome May 2013 #59

I know. People reflexively taking the side of the press against the Government is so wrong. Nye Bevan May 2013 #78

Reflexively taking anyone's side is wrong. The facts should speak for themselves. randome May 2013 #83

Have NO IDEA what to make of this....I don't see NYT's really defying any President KoKo May 2013 #69

dunno who i have more contempt for, the DOJ or the media whores 0rganism May 2013 #75

lol's true...they must be able to dig up some Toady...so they can trash them later. KoKo May 2013 #84

Personally I think Holder is dead meat LittleBlue May 2013 #87

What is the point in talking to the press "off the record?" Skip Intro May 2013 #89

Maybe because there is an actual national security issue at stake? Just speculating. randome May 2013 #91

"Okay guys... here's the deal (shhhhh you can't tell anyone We told you this, ESPECIALLY AMERICANS!) cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #94

You don't think reporters get off-the-record meetings all the time? randome May 2013 #100

I'm not so naive as to think reporters don't get off-the-record meetings. Bureau Chiefs? En masse? cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #106

Actually, many reporters do not use "off-the-record" protection, some editors ask their newsrooms Brickbat May 2013 #120

Agreed.. kentuck May 2013 #103

But That's The Actual Question And Confusion... WillyT May 2013 #99

I know, it's infuriating to not tell the public what secrets you are trying to keep. randome May 2013 #102

Just to give some background context for better understanding... Blue_Tires May 2013 #114

The shit's getting deep... kentuck May 2013 #93

And Yet... If He HAD Gone After The Bankers And Wall Street... He'd Have Majority Support... WillyT May 2013 #101

Good for the NYT! Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #123

Can someone help a layman out here shawn703 May 2013 #133

At the high level you are talking off nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #136

Then I expect them to stay silent when they have future questions... Pragdem May 2013 #137