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Ilsa

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26. Police were so poorly trained they couldn't

Wed May 29, 2013, 08:56 PM

May 2013

tackle a woman with a pizza wheel or knife without shooting her dead? This has failure written all over it. Training, philosophy, having even a modicum of humanity.
I agree with you completely.

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Good Lord. Woman Handing Out Samples at Va. Costco Shot Dead by Police After Acting Strangely [View all] cali May 2013 OP

Moral of story RobertEarl May 2013 #1

too bad crazy people might have a hard time remembering that 0rganism May 2013 #5

Or someone having an insulin attack Matariki May 2013 #50

Your compassion for another human who is now dead is touching. dballance May 2013 #54

Or she might have been havinfg a nervous breakdown or any number of other problems. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2013 #7

Maybe she was diabetic, or had psychomotor epilepsy, or untreated mental illness . . . hatrack May 2013 #13

Maybe. But what we DO know is that she had a knife & scissors & threatened Costco employees Honeycombe8 May 2013 #25

she had a knife and scissors because she was sampling pizza. neither the knives or the scissors niyad May 2013 #40

Small scissors and knives are most certainly a threat NickB79 May 2013 #65

she didn't have a box cutter, she had a knife and scissors for the pizza. and, as others have niyad May 2013 #73

Only if you let them get that close and even then it would require a great deal of luck. Live and Learn May 2013 #78

Have you ever been to Costco? Eddie Haskell May 2013 #69

alternative headline arely staircase May 2013 #2

so far locally the word is that she did have a knife. loli phabay May 2013 #3

how do you cut pizza samples without a knife? savalez May 2013 #4

not by running at cops with it arely staircase May 2013 #6

and you know she was running at them? bzzzzt. No you fucking don't cali May 2013 #12

well, the witnesses stories don't match your headline arely staircase May 2013 #14

Running? savalez May 2013 #86

with a pizza wheel. HiPointDem May 2013 #47

Sure, or a knife, or even... savalez May 2013 #87

bullshit. It couldn't be clearer that this was a woman in the midst of cali May 2013 #9

My initial thought was she had a brain tumor or was having a stroke. Doremus May 2013 #17

My first thought was drugs. For a stun gun not to work. Heavy duty drugs. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #19

Stun guns aren't perfect. Ready4Change May 2013 #44

Or an apron. n/t krispos42 May 2013 #75

Yep Ready4Change May 2013 #80

Ditto for me! "May their actions haunt them the rest of their lives." Auntie Bush May 2013 #27

I was thinking amphetimines. Too many and/or too long. Wigged out. Won't react to stun guns. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #22

Police were so poorly trained they couldn't Ilsa May 2013 #26

Yep big fail marions ghost May 2013 #70

couldn't be clearer? arely staircase May 2013 #28

Cops ARE trained to handle it. Bonobo May 2013 #29

But before the cops got there, she was threatening others Yo_Mama May 2013 #36

If two cops can't disarm a woman with a knife without killing her indie9197 May 2013 #8

exactly. cali May 2013 #10

End of discussion. n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #15

Amen. nt Lex May 2013 #20

Yep. Apophis May 2013 #49

^^ this ^^ defacto7 May 2013 #51

We're at the point where we citizens need a force to protect us from the police villager May 2013 #57

Naw, that's just more of the same and worse. defacto7 May 2013 #58

Except they are different. And since they won't tear down and reorganize themselves, what are our villager May 2013 #59

Whatever it is, it's a slow process. defacto7 May 2013 #61

I really meant we needed some kind of institutional counter-weight to the police... villager May 2013 #62

You have any ideas? defacto7 May 2013 #63

And I'm highly skeptical about the knife claim. ronnie624 May 2013 #56

"Came At" - what the fuck does that mean? Lunged? Dove? Walked? Strolled? Sprinted? Slipped? hatrack May 2013 #11

She passed out and they shot her where she fell. Eddie Haskell May 2013 #16

Cowards! defacto7 May 2013 #52

Sounds like she was on some heavy duty drugs? For a stun gun not to work & the Honeycombe8 May 2013 #18

the stun gun didn't work--could have malfunctioned, not been charged. doesn't really say that it niyad May 2013 #42

Don't police wear vests that stop both bullets and knives? I don't understand this. stevenleser May 2013 #21

the vests wont stop a knife, a knife across the wrist can kill also loli phabay May 2013 #24

I think training has shifted more to the use of the taser Yo_Mama May 2013 #37

Taser, yes, but most cops also carry OC spray and a baton, which they train with Nay May 2013 #81

wtf? something sounds off here. the vagueness of the account, for one thing. HiPointDem May 2013 #23

She was first threatening employees with a knife and scissors. Neurotica May 2013 #30

i didn't make any judgement except that something sounds off & unnecessarily vague about the HiPointDem May 2013 #31

Sadly, it's often too much to ask given the sorry state of journalism. n/t Neurotica May 2013 #32

perhaps it also has something to do with the sad state of policing, and the sad state of the economy HiPointDem May 2013 #33

seems she was threatening other employees, they called the sheriff loli phabay May 2013 #35

Scary situation for sure and sad for everyone involved. Neurotica May 2013 #39

Those plastic knives can be dangerous! AndyA May 2013 #34

where did you read "plastic" knife? arely staircase May 2013 #38

Who needs facts when you can make shit up nobodyspecial May 2013 #48

Sarcasm n/t AndyA May 2013 #71

And so it goes... another in an endless stream of murderers with a badge defended by Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #41

the "breaking news" headline was "deputy shot", not "woman killed by deputies"-- amazing. niyad May 2013 #43

Cops need better training RedCappedBandit May 2013 #45

you'd think we would find some fucking way to subdue people other than killing them spanone May 2013 #46

The stun gun didn't work Life Long Dem May 2013 #53

In the comments, a man who was in the store at the time tblue37 May 2013 #64

I think it is poor training, and a few other things. Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #72

I am almost 63, and I have cardiac arhythmia. tblue37 May 2013 #88

Perhaps a shot in the leg may have been the correct response to an elderly WCGreen May 2013 #55

I agree damnedifIknow May 2013 #76

When I was 20, an old woman maybe 75 came at me in the house defacto7 May 2013 #60

amazing story old chap. loli phabay May 2013 #66

Gin and Coke? It would have been more merciful to shoot her! JVS May 2013 #74

Actually it was more gin than coke by about 30 to 1. defacto7 May 2013 #84

Bad shooting decision. In_The_Wind May 2013 #67

Isn't this a scene from The Simpson's? Eddie Haskell May 2013 #68

I love the way this is phrased: niyad May 2013 #77

FIVE SHOTS? this article has slightly more information niyad May 2013 #79

Whatever happened to shooting someone in the leg?? cbdo2007 May 2013 #82

Sounds like the behavior of someone who neglects their insulin shots justiceischeap May 2013 #83

NBC is M$M, they're incapable of investigating anything or reporting on it Corruption Inc May 2013 #85