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105. Your lack of imagination does not constitute a limit on what is possible. n/t

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do we really need a money system? [View all] undergroundpanther May 2013 OP

It's a good dream. defacto7 May 2013 #1

So is being able to fly... brooklynite May 2013 #129

I don't care what ya say, Orville. Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #151

How do you think they got the supplies at the hardware store? brooklynite Jan 2015 #152

Yes... TreasonousBastard May 2013 #2

Agreed Sherman A1 May 2013 #7

why does it have to have a value undergroundpanther May 2013 #12

Okay, I will take the bait. Sherman A1 May 2013 #22

I'll say it. I love money! Throd May 2013 #69

Well said ChazII May 2013 #89

Thank You Kindly, Sherman A1 May 2013 #94

okay, what would you barter to me for food, whats the skill or goods loli phabay May 2013 #39

No. Profit is compensation for time, effort, and investment FrodosPet May 2013 #43

Profit is theft? You sure about that? TampaAnimusVortex May 2013 #63

I think the concept being express is that "extra" profit is theft... brooklynite May 2013 #91

No, thats not at all whats being attacked... TampaAnimusVortex May 2013 #110

So will we all be living in lean-to's collected from branches in the woods? pnwmom May 2013 #82

I think it means I grow the poster food and you provide whatever else they need loli phabay May 2013 #85

No we get their DU musings. dkf May 2013 #120

Profit is theft? WTF? Bay Boy May 2013 #108

No, profit is LIFE Yo_Mama May 2013 #112

If you think being a truck driver isn't or can't be thrilling...... A HERETIC I AM May 2013 #127

That's not thrilling, it's terrifying Yo_Mama May 2013 #134

Barter is a myth. The 'barter system' that is found in the first chapter of any intro to economics Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #15

When work becomes more democratic (and more meaningful), Ron Green May 2013 #3

No, but yes. Currency makes a complex and expansive economy possible, so we really do need it Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #4

I just can't picture an advanced civilization from another planet using tokens. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #5

yeah undergroundpanther May 2013 #8

The token is not the problem. The rules are the problem. We can change the rules. nt CJCRANE May 2013 #20

All of our oldest archeological finds have shown our nature is to form communities... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #40

baloney. cali May 2013 #116

Sure it does, once you get past the stone arrowheads. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #119

Lion prides at least try to chase away the hyenas FrodosPet May 2013 #44

Ok sport DonCoquixote May 2013 #45

Tokens are money. MineralMan May 2013 #54

And tokens would just be another form of money anyway. nt pnwmom May 2013 #81

Actually, it's the other way around. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #84

It just needs to be spread around more evenly. Here's something I wrote previously on that topic: CJCRANE May 2013 #6

Why not just share what you have undergroundpanther May 2013 #9

sounds good, but why would you toil twenty hours a day loli phabay May 2013 #41

Children give nothing in return. magellan May 2013 #60

children do, they are the future and like our aging parents they loli phabay May 2013 #61

Using your definition they don't magellan May 2013 #62

Also, if everyone has what they need magellan May 2013 #66

somebody will srill have to work their ass off digging ditches loli phabay May 2013 #71

That's where you're wrong magellan May 2013 #74

depends what you mean by being productive, loli phabay May 2013 #78

Why would they move into your cabin? magellan May 2013 #80

the point was that someone will still have to work to produce what the op wants loli phabay May 2013 #83

Of course people will still have to work magellan May 2013 #96

well i am more cynical knowing the world as i do, yes some people will sacrifice for others loli phabay May 2013 #101

I'm already doing that with my little sis and her fiance and baby FrodosPet May 2013 #55

money does not motivate me undergroundpanther May 2013 #13

If it's a burden Lurker Deluxe May 2013 #32

and if this society you want decides that your art is useless loli phabay May 2013 #49

Buying art materials motivates you. Other people have children, that motivates them CJCRANE May 2013 #124

Agree with you me b zola May 2013 #10

silly season. people that think that without money or religion or whatever, evil would cali May 2013 #11

Those who want to live controlled undergroundpanther May 2013 #14

I'm sorry, but this is nonsense. sweet nonsense, but nonsense all the same. cali May 2013 #17

but money is pieces of paper undergroundpanther May 2013 #18

When I was 14 or so, that's exactly what I said. I had this conceit cali May 2013 #21

So there is no brute force in the animal world? CJCRANE May 2013 #23

"Control land"? Really? Silent3 May 2013 #35

I think you need to move here--- snooper2 May 2013 #50

ok, that was fascinating as well as beautifully produced and edited cali May 2013 #64

Vice, they have great journalists, real journalists- snooper2 May 2013 #67

Really interesting treestar May 2013 #126

Any of those emotionally capable people willing to put in Codeine May 2013 #141

How to keep corruption out? undergroundpanther May 2013 #19

that's so easy to say, so impossible to do. How do you not tolerate it?` cali May 2013 #24

corruption wouldnt ne the main issue it would be laziness loli phabay May 2013 #42

People "working their asses off" is how we got into this mess. hunter May 2013 #111

Not sure about that one treestar May 2013 #135

how? undergroundpanther May 2013 #16

social reality IS shared belief. really. cali May 2013 #28

and yet DonCoquixote May 2013 #47

I would get rid of paper money and coins. I myself only use $4 bucks a week in cash. graham4anything May 2013 #25

What do you do when the power goes out? FrodosPet May 2013 #46

Do like NY/NJ is doing with gas stations-mandatory generators. graham4anything May 2013 #48

you realise the problem was with the networks not individual gas stations loli phabay May 2013 #51

That's something I have been advocating since long before 2003 FrodosPet May 2013 #53

Still don't need cash for that. All of that could be harnessed by other methods of energy. graham4anything May 2013 #114

There would still be robberies without paper money. JVS May 2013 #113

Just to add my two chickens worth... jtuck004 May 2013 #26

Exactly, Pro Forma orpupilofnature57 May 2013 #27

let me try again. Money is a social construct; a social reality cali May 2013 #29

when the earth is owned by labor and there is joy and peace for all in the workers' commonwealth Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #30

Worked great in Russia and China so whyn't! whistler162 May 2013 #31

This brings back memories FreeJoe May 2013 #33

Not everybody can do what they want to do. Travis_0004 May 2013 #34

Yes. DanTex May 2013 #36

Well . . . YarnAddict May 2013 #37

Yes we do! Javaman May 2013 #38

Some would agree Shankapotomus May 2013 #52

If you think everyone should be a subsistence farmer or gather geek tragedy May 2013 #56

I think the point is that you and I should be and then we support the poster loli phabay May 2013 #58

You can abandon the world of money anytime you want. MineralMan May 2013 #57

Perhaps if the human race had never gone down the money road it could have happened. raouldukelives May 2013 #59

Even in Star Trek they had a type of payment. Neoma May 2013 #65

I think that was a Voyager perversion of the original vision. hunter May 2013 #79

Certain items are still important to keep around. Neoma May 2013 #90

10 credits for a Tribble brooklynite May 2013 #117

That was a frontier space station. hunter May 2013 #118

...and who, exactly, backed the value of that credit? brooklynite May 2013 #128

Is this a religious belief? I think it is. hunter May 2013 #131

Who here is upset? brooklynite May 2013 #132

You say that dancing for the gods is working, that the sacrafice is worthwhile... hunter May 2013 #136

So your issue is NOT "money"... brooklynite May 2013 #140

I'm happy with my apples, thank you. Sometimes a little ugly, but 100% organic. hunter May 2013 #143

I'm fearless undergroundpanther Jun 2013 #144

Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn't, depending on the need of the script of the moment. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #123

But how will I get all the stuff I need? longship May 2013 #68

If everyone in the world had "a decent home car T.V.", we'd need to produce a lot more muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #70

Not necessarily more, just different. The volumes of production we currently have are sufficient to Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #121

I think about this a lot. hunter May 2013 #72

Dude, we would so get along. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #122

How many proctologists really love their jobs? n/t cigsandcoffee May 2013 #73

just the assholes n/t Godhumor May 2013 #99

K & R, good out-of-the-box discussion dreamnightwind May 2013 #75

A little OT, but in a similar vein: Newest Reality May 2013 #76

Yes, and as an accounting major... I'm glad it's here to stay. nt Pragdem May 2013 #77

You would certainly have to change majors if it went away. Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #87

I see a human population that values material possesions more than humans . olddots May 2013 #86

Tell us which products you're willing to give up... brooklynite May 2013 #88

What will solve our economic Shankapotomus May 2013 #92

I think you're being more than a little naive. Captain Stern May 2013 #93

This is impossible because there would be no incentive to work. Dash87 May 2013 #95

All this means is that you are burning through your all-to-short life toiling for someone else's Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #97

I doubt people want to spend hours of their lives away from their families Dash87 May 2013 #98

You just don't seem to know those people. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #102

Another problem : how to produce anything advanced? Dash87 May 2013 #100

Why? Because you say so? You don't know anybody that loves building machines, none of your neighbors Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #103

kinda hard to mass produce the electronics you are using in your garage loli phabay May 2013 #104

Your lack of imagination does not constitute a limit on what is possible. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #105

Cooperation throughout the globe without money would be a total failure, imo. Dash87 May 2013 #109

I think I just lost 20 IQ points after reading that Uzair May 2013 #106

If they have to teach a Marx in college whistler162 May 2013 #115

While this would work in hippie communes Warpy May 2013 #107

Yes, we do. One example: bobclark86 May 2013 #125

I semi-agree. I don't think our means of barter is efficient or fair. Cleita May 2013 #130

I think this would be an interesting experiment. hunter Jun 2013 #148

In matter of fact, no we don't need it anymore. TRoN33 May 2013 #133

Money exists for everyone's convenience. Captain Stern May 2013 #139

What everyone needs, maybe never all they want Spike89 May 2013 #137

Ego & Greed cause competition . orpupilofnature57 May 2013 #138

Nope. Ego and greed cause competition to go overboard Spike89 Jun 2013 #149

Why not just compete against the nature and death and aging rather than against each other? konzay Jan 2015 #150

For now we do.... Mojo Electro May 2013 #142

How could the Government raise taxes without one? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #145

What would the government need to raise money for if there was no money? nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #147

I don't know but I think we should experiment with it. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #146

Uh, rich people need it, else they won't get to keep everything for doing nothing. nt valerief Jan 2015 #153