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In reply to the discussion: What is the reason the GLBT Community doesn't support Bradley Manning? [View all]AnalystInParadise
(1,832 posts)Let's say 60 seconds per report to completely read it and absorb the data. That is being VERY generous to you by the way as many reports are several pages long and thousands of words but I will be generous AGAIN to prove that you are incredibly full of shit.
So Manning can read 60reports an hour if he never ate, he never slept, he never went to the bathroom, we both know the average human needs 4-6 hours to function. Let's split the difference and say 5 hours of sleep, plus two more hours for meals, walking around the base, personal hygiene, etc. In Iraq Analysts work twelve hours on twelve hours off. So let's say that Manning was free to read reports for 6 of his twelve hours off. We also know that he instant messaged people, we know he made phone calls, watched movies and played video games. So can we agree that of the 6 remaining hours on his off time, that for one of those hours he emailed, skyped and played video games? I am willing to say that he read reports for 5 of his twelve hours off. Now for the twelve hours he was on shift, he actually had work to do and products to produce, but he also would have had down time. I am willing to generously say that no one was concerned about an analyst doing work on IED's spending half his shift on a state department website for diplomatic cables. I AM WILLING to say that Manning had 11 hours a day everyday to read these 750,000 messages he claimed to read. So let's do some math Manning was in Iraq from late October until May 26th the day he was arrested. This means he had about 200 days to read reports, except we also know he went on leave so take 24 days off that total. So let's say he had 186 days in country to read reports. If you want to say that he took data with him on military leave, I am willing to add some numbers onto this math problem we are about to engage in. So 186 days times 11 hours a day means manning had 2046 hours to read reports. I will give you the round up and say he had 2100 hours to read reports. So if we say he read one report a minute NONSTOP for that 2100 hours then he read 126,000 reports. That's not even 20% of the total AND NOWHERE NEAR MOST OF THEM. BUT we both know he did not read reports non-stop during these hours I have mentioned. He had extra duty that took him away from his work, he had mandatory PT physical training during the work day that was usually an hour per day, so we can subtract 200 hours just from PT alone. Ask anyone who has been to Iraq most people do their PT training during the workday or during the off time, either way Manning loses an hour each day from this alone. PT is not voluntary unless you score over 300 on your PT test. And Manning did not, please prove otherwise if you can. So let's knock that down to 1900 hours, also he saw a mental health expert and another doctor on FOB HAMMER where he was stationed at least once a week, chop another hour per week from the 30 weeks he was there. We are now down to about 1850 hours and this is ASSUMING Manning was left alone to read diplomatic cables in full view of all his coworkers for 6 hours a day while on shift. Anyone who has worked in a SCIF in Iraq knows that you work in an office with 5-10 other people at the same time, or you work on the Ops Floor which has 30-50 people. No way did he read that many hours a day. BUT I am going to be generous and give you the allotted time we have just discussed. So subtracting PT hours and Doctors appointments/Getting counselled by the Commander, extra duty from his Article 15, etc.....I think we can agree that Bradley Manning had 1800 hours (9 hours a day) while in theater to read the messages (Still way too much time, but I will use numbers in your favor to demonstrate how ridiculous you are. So 200 days in theater times 9 hours a day time 60 reports per hour gives us 108,000 reports totally read if we use your crazy logic. In what universe is 14.4% most of anything. If you want to claim that he read the remaining 500,000 reports while he was on his midtour leave please do so....Also I am awaiting your claim that he was a great analyst and didn't have to read them....if you go that route, please read this. Manning was a red flag from day one, his fellow students knew he was a security risk waiting to happen.............So please tell me again how Manning was an excellent analyst, I await that post. Let's say 60 seconds per report to completely read it and absorb the data. That is being VERY generous to you by the way as many reports are several pages long and thousands of words but I will be generous AGAIN to prove that you are incredibly full of shit.
So Manning can read 60reports an hour if he never ate, he never slept, he never went to the bathroom, we both know the average human needs 4-6 hours to function. Let's split the difference and say 5 hours of sleep, plus two more hours for meals, walking around the base, personal hygiene, etc. In Iraq Analysts work twelve hours on twelve hours off. So let's say that Manning was free to read reports for 6 of his twelve hours off. We also know that he instant messaged people, we know he made phone calls, watched movies and played video games. So can we agree that of the 6 remaining hours on his off time, that for one of those hours he emailed, skyped and played video games? I am willing to say that he read reports for 5 of his twelve hours off. Now for the twelve hours he was on shift, he actually had work to do and products to produce, but he also would have had down time. I am willing to generously say that no one was concerned about an analyst doing work on IED's spending half his shift on a state department website for diplomatic cables. I AM WILLING to say that Manning had 11 hours a day everyday to read these 750,000 messages he claimed to read. So let's do some math Manning was in Iraq from late October until May 26th the day he was arrested. This means he had about 200 days to read reports, except we also know he went on leave so take 24 days off that total. So let's say he had 186 days in country to read reports. If you want to say that he took data with him on military leave, I am willing to add some numbers onto this math problem we are about to engage in. So 186 days times 11 hours a day means manning had 2046 hours to read reports. I will give you the round up and say he had 2100 hours to read reports. So if we say he read one report a minute NONSTOP for that 2100 hours then he read 126,000 reports. That's not even 20% of the total AND NOWHERE NEAR MOST OF THEM. BUT we both know he did not read reports non-stop during these hours I have mentioned. He had extra duty that took him away from his work, he had mandatory PT physical training during the work day that was usually an hour per day, so we can subtract 200 hours just from PT alone. Ask anyone who has been to Iraq most people do their PT training during the workday or during the off time, either way Manning loses an hour each day from this alone. PT is not voluntary unless you score over 300 on your PT test. And Manning did not, please prove otherwise if you can. So let's knock that down to 1900 hours, also he saw a mental health expert and another doctor on FOB HAMMER where he was stationed at least once a week, chop another hour per week from the 30 weeks he was there. We are now down to about 1850 hours and this is ASSUMING Manning was left alone to read diplomatic cables in full view of all his coworkers for 6 hours a day while on shift. Anyone who has worked in a SCIF in Iraq knows that you work in an office with 5-10 other people at the same time, or you work on the Ops Floor which has 30-50 people. No way did he read that many hours a day. BUT I am going to be generous and give you the allotted time we have just discussed. So subtracting PT hours and Doctors appointments/Getting counselled by the Commander, extra duty from his Article 15, etc.....I think we can agree that Bradley Manning had 1800 hours (9 hours a day) while in theater to read the messages (Still way too much time, but I will use numbers in your favor to demonstrate how ridiculous you are. So 200 days in theater times 9 hours a day time 60 reports per hour gives us 108,000 reports totally read if we use your crazy logic. In what universe is 14.4% most of anything. If you want to claim that he read the remaining 500,000 reports while he was on his midtour leave please do so....Also I am awaiting your claim that he was a great analyst and didn't have to read them....if you go that route, please read this. Manning was a red flag from day one, his fellow students knew he was a security risk waiting to happen.............So please tell me again how Manning was an excellent analyst, I await that post. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/manning_youtube/