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IdaBriggs

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80. It is called "heresy" and the penalty *used to be* DEATH.
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:05 AM
May 2013

It wouldn't have been personal; it would have been to save everyone else from being contaminated by your lack of belief if you talked about how you didn't believe "everything as written."

It is one of the reasons that "freedom of religion" was a *MAJOR* big deal in the United States, and why control over religious institutions (which get to interpret "the truth&quot were life and death struggles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy

You might call yourself by (fill in the blank/religion of choice), and the names may have been co-opted by different folks ranging from snake handling pentecostals to the unitarians to the riverside baptists through the Roman versus Orthodox catholics and the mormons, but a quick check list into "articles of faith" might help identify the brand practiced.

To the rest of them, HERETIC or UNBELIEVER or IDIOT.

Personally, I try to have respect for all of them, especially since so many of them diverged based on personality conflicts within groups of believers. After a few years, people just assume their variant has "always" been around. Or that they can trace when their version of "the truth" became "the only way to get to heaven."

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The difference between fundies are "regular" religous folks snooper2 May 2013 #1
This is the unthinking DU religious feeling right here in a nutshell - a clear example. el_bryanto May 2013 #3
sorry if the truth is offensive.. snooper2 May 2013 #6
What a childlike view of religion. el_bryanto May 2013 #8
It's god's word right? snooper2 May 2013 #10
This is because you see religion as strictly a checklist of beliefs. el_bryanto May 2013 #14
I could care less about all the nuances you just brought up snooper2 May 2013 #17
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #18
#thingsthegodlysay amuse bouche May 2013 #24
LOL snooper2 May 2013 #25
Oh as a Christian of course I am required to love you el_bryanto May 2013 #32
I'm sure the religous will be okay... snooper2 May 2013 #33
But to say "You should love your enemies; REP May 2013 #43
"Which is why i am telling you to change your ways and stop being an ignorant bigot" said Jesus to piratefish08 May 2013 #81
So do you believe in a supernatural being that created the universe? Warren Stupidity May 2013 #39
Yes, some of them, yes, and yes el_bryanto May 2013 #42
But to say "You should love your enemies; REP May 2013 #44
Jefferson, Thomas, wrote his own version of the gospels, sans miracles. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #67
No, it is a typical waffle of an answer. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #66
Fair enough - if you want to create a continuum of belief say that at one end el_bryanto May 2013 #72
It is called "heresy" and the penalty *used to be* DEATH. IdaBriggs May 2013 #80
FWIW: My position on organized religion davekriss May 2013 #50
That was fun to read. Thank you. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #68
Exactly right amuse bouche May 2013 #23
And again that reflects a childish and muleheaded desire not to actually understand religion nt el_bryanto May 2013 #31
okay, then explain what we are missing? nt Javaman May 2013 #37
Well I don't know what your specific arguments against religion are el_bryanto May 2013 #38
Frankly, I was just curious... Javaman May 2013 #40
I understand all the silly, creepy nonsense amuse bouche May 2013 #41
You don't really get to complain about name calling when you start from a position el_bryanto May 2013 #45
Don't care about your name calling amuse bouche May 2013 #49
'a la carte'. and that comment demonstrates that your conception of religiousity is silly. HiPointDem May 2013 #52
The "Left Behind" end times mumbo jumbo was cooked up in the 1800's. antigone382 May 2013 #22
Whatever Christianity may have been before Constantine, the basic outline since... TheMadMonk May 2013 #64
Well said. n/t. lindysalsagal May 2013 #61
Not childlike. Childish. KamaAina May 2013 #13
That's a fair cop. - Childlike is sometimes a good thing. nt el_bryanto May 2013 #15
I swear to Cthulhu Drale May 2013 #28
Not silly at all. It's the belief in the sky god at all that's silly. lindysalsagal May 2013 #60
'silly' is not mental illness. and the claim that it is, and needs 'cure' is fascist, which is way HiPointDem May 2013 #70
your truth, not mine demwing May 2013 #27
Thanks el_bryanto Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #19
"Verges" on bigotry? cordelia May 2013 #34
the OP does way more than verge on bigotry. it's an endorsement of nazi practices. and written HiPointDem May 2013 #56
I'm sure you have evidence for that claim. Produce it. rug May 2013 #53
God, mate, you give us atheists a bad name n/t SwissTony May 2013 #65
Yes, he/she certainly does. n/t cordelia May 2013 #69
That's completely wrong. sibelian May 2013 #73
There's something offensive about that, many people have mental illnesses... hunter May 2013 #2
I think it's an attempt to smear. Neoma May 2013 #5
Agreed. Identification with powerful deities is a compensation for insecurity. lindysalsagal May 2013 #62
Being able to cure the fundies would solve a lot of the worlds ills Ohio Joe May 2013 #4
The first step is ostracizing all fundamentalists from national debate. BrotherIvan May 2013 #7
They claim to cure Fundies and child molestors amuse bouche May 2013 #9
Fundies believe Gay is a disease to be cured and some are insane but Dragonfli May 2013 #11
Absolutely. Zoeisright May 2013 #12
What is your solution to this abuse? el_bryanto May 2013 #16
I like this title. AsahinaKimi May 2013 #20
Fanatacism/fundamentalism may be linked to some mental illness? Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #21
2000 religions on earth-which one to choose? ErikJ May 2013 #26
Correct. Try being catholic in Iran. Saudi Arabia. Pakistan. lindysalsagal May 2013 #63
Exactly amuse bouche May 2013 #76
Do they have a pill yet-- Progressive dog May 2013 #29
Michelle Bachman is a good example of someone who is messed up with religious fundamentalism kimbutgar May 2013 #30
EXTREME is the key word here felix_numinous May 2013 #35
So . . . Anymouse May 2013 #46
delete felix_numinous May 2013 #48
Where did you get your political views? rug May 2013 #54
all our beliefs, thoughts and material practices, not to mention the "I" who "thinks" and "reasons," HiPointDem May 2013 #58
wow, orwellian. HiPointDem May 2013 #36
Sad thing is people will cheer it on if it helps them with their hatred The Straight Story May 2013 #51
surprisingly, i agree with you. i think it's just the mirror image of fundies who think gays or HiPointDem May 2013 #57
Comparing being Gay to religion is absurd amuse bouche May 2013 #75
For years, the Espoused One Le Taz Hot May 2013 #47
if the other thread about fundamentalism was locked so should this one. liberal_at_heart May 2013 #55
Cured by a dystopian science fiction scenario, you mean Hekate May 2013 #59
+1000. the 'cure' is no different from the disease. HiPointDem May 2013 #71
Admitting religion is a disease amuse bouche May 2013 #74
it may be a socially transmitted disease, but it's not a mental illness. but then, life is also a HiPointDem May 2013 #77
"life is also a socially transmitted disease" amuse bouche May 2013 #78
yes, well. having read your comments, i don't much care if you agree. rational humans have HiPointDem May 2013 #79
"yes, well. having read your comments, i don't much care if you agree" amuse bouche May 2013 #82
oh, i had no doubt HiPointDem May 2013 #83
At one time LostOne4Ever May 2013 #84
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