General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: What is the reason the GLBT Community doesn't support Bradley Manning? [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)crimes disagrees with the facts. Facts which I provided for you from Ellsberg himself. Manning DID expose war crimes and the fact that you do not consider, or do not know, those acts to be crimes is very sad indeed. We go around the world claiming to be the world's moral arbiter. Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo and all the other war crimes committed by the Bush administration, some of which WERE revealed in what Manning released, and I will take Ellsberg's word on that even if I did not know it myself, were well known long before someone revealed them.
So let me ask you this? There were reports of the crimes at Abu Ghraib from independent journalists long before the photos were released. Why were they not dealt with until it was virtually impossible to deny them?
I read of torture at Abu Ghraib in early 2004. Yet nothing was done about it.
Guantanamo was always a crime in action yet nothing was done about the reports of how those detainees got there either.
So it appears to me that crimes are only dealt with now AFTER they cannot be denied any longer. Worse, apparently we have been so desentized as a nation that we no longer view torture as a violation of our own and of International laws. So there are innocent people being tortured by the US Government, who cares? Well some of us still do.
And what about the 'ghost planes' and the 'black sites' all over the world? Everyone knew about them from reports from independent journalists. Who has been held accountable for any of these crimes??
You want this soldier to be punished. He did not create this situation where so many crimes have already been revealed and so many more going on such as Guantanamo Bay eg.
Can you point to anyone in a position of power so far who has been held accountable for the horrific crimes that HAVE been revealed? Manning killed no one, tortured no one, put no one in danger, as Gates stated. He did not lie to the American people to start these useless, deadly wars.
Seems to me you are angry at the wrong person.