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Fri May 31, 2013, 08:50 PM

May 2013

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We Fucked the Jetstream...BIG TIME..... [View all] Junkdrawer May 2013 OP

I'm sorry, but this is NOT the time for wackadoodle woo & bull. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #1

You might want to think about that "step away from the computer" advice yer own self, "AverageJoe" villager May 2013 #2

I'm not taking sides here Major Nikon May 2013 #12

I'm simply saying that those who freely advise others to "step away from the computer," villager May 2013 #16

I know I would step away from my computer, but truedelphi May 2013 #25

Hard drives can not be trusted MattBaggins May 2013 #33

"I can feel my mind slipping, Dave..." villager Jun 2013 #48

The story so far... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #58

It's certainly not the time for denial, either... Cooley Hurd May 2013 #3

I was intending to refer just to Junkdrawer's "Mitigation is making it worse comment". AverageJoe90 May 2013 #6

Are you really applauding "climate change mitigation" via "The Faustian Bargain"???? Junkdrawer May 2013 #4

Gotta do what we can, TBH. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #7

Words fail. n/t Junkdrawer May 2013 #8

You're either completely in the dark, or in denial of reality. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #9

Two Points: Junkdrawer May 2013 #13

I never said, or IMPLIED, that I was in favor of coal, not at all. WTF? AverageJoe90 May 2013 #14

I asked a fair, simple question in post #4 Junkdrawer May 2013 #17

You did precisely that in post #7 Occulus May 2013 #24

No, I did not. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #29

No, in fact, you CAN'T add a caveat after the fact. Occulus May 2013 #30

Well, I admit I made a mistake in not being clear enough. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #32

You made no mistake and your clarity was flawless Occulus May 2013 #35

Now you're just being an idiot, Occulus. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #38

As a low post-count member, I give people the BotD. SamReynolds Jun 2013 #73

Truth is, Sam, I think I really did. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #78

I'm over it. SamReynolds Jun 2013 #87

Heh, thanks, I guess. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #88

What DO you think "The Faustian Bargain" is? Junkdrawer May 2013 #31

And? AverageJoe90 May 2013 #36

Don't you DARE conflate the switch from coal to natural gas as "The Faustian Bargain"... Junkdrawer May 2013 #40

Well, to be honest, I didn't know the whole story behind that, and besides...... AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #51

All I have to say to you is one word: "Penny-Pritzker". Obama's Mit Romney. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #47

How did I know you'd be here? XemaSab May 2013 #18

Lucky guess. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #20

We had some seriously screwn storms the last two summers... DCKit Jun 2013 #55

I have no idea... babylonsister May 2013 #5

I don't doubt there's a jet stream issue. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #10

I think the intent was to express that mitigation is enabling further pollution. mattclearing Jun 2013 #52

Matt, I think 99% of us share a certain opinion with you, myself included. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #53

As I see it... Veilex Jun 2013 #71

Nobody would necessarily HAVE to give up creature comforts because of a switch to green energy. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #72

"There is really no doubt whatsoever that we can have our cake and eat it, too" Veilex Jun 2013 #81

..... AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #82

"We need to shove myths like this, as well as certain other things, aside, and focus only on facts" Veilex Jun 2013 #83

Except that Matt is right. SamReynolds Jun 2013 #74

Sam, I didn't intend to do that. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #75

Mother Nature has been schooling the Republican South lately upi402 May 2013 #11

Last time I checked, tornadoes don't give a damn about how you voted. xmas74 May 2013 #26

That's not what the poster was saying. MADem May 2013 #37

But, sadly, many won't. Especially not the Teabaggers. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #39

And that is some sad truth...it would be grand if MADem May 2013 #43

When was the last time a "blue state" had a tornado? xmas74 May 2013 #41

Oh, come on--we can play that little back and forth game, but you know what I meant. MADem May 2013 #42

+1 davidpdx May 2013 #44

It won't matter. Incitatus Jun 2013 #49

um... not really ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #59

Probably one of the most flawed stats in weather... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #60

so now stats from the national weather service don't count? ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #64

Speaking of tornadoes, your spin of my words is on display.... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #65

the most flawed stat in weather... ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #66

Your clip of my words. Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #67

so your words don't say what they mean? ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #70

The jetstream is changing bigtime coldbeer May 2013 #15

We're all a little worried(as we should be)..... AverageJoe90 May 2013 #19

The way I describe Sandy - "The eye of a huricane passed by Buffalo on it's way to Canada." Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #22

My prediction (or hope) is that we are heading for an eventual mini-Ice Age. Which will help slow KittyWampus May 2013 #21

You do understand that the qualifying word "mini" refers to a geological time line, about 5 centuries Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #27

The possible result of too much CO2 in the atmosphere/altered Jet Stream is a mini Ice Age. KittyWampus May 2013 #28

So the answer is no. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #54

Canada will become the new super-power ErikJ May 2013 #23

I've always thought that, too. caseymoz May 2013 #34

Well let's see- ruffburr May 2013 #45

Too clever by half.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #46

Shishkebab on a rotating rutabaga! ananda Jun 2013 #50

No real mitigation? Really? NickB79 Jun 2013 #56

First cfc's THEN CO2.... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #57

Are you *really* claiming that burning coal in China is an attempt to mitigate climate change? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #61

You're right. Hansen doesn't say that. He says "Doubling Down on our Faustian Bargain" Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #63

Global population is already above the threshold for inevitable collapse FarCenter Jun 2013 #62

That is the root problem. roamer65 Jun 2013 #68

There is no chance of ruining other worlds FarCenter Jun 2013 #69

Overpopulation may be a problem, but not the only one. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #77

"likely less than 1 billion"? I don't fucking think so. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #76

The Australians were able to kill over 90% of the rabbits with two different agents. FarCenter Jun 2013 #79

So? Apples and oranges, my friend, accept it or not. n/t AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #80

Recommend..thanks! KoKo Jun 2013 #84

Interesting. I have often thought about what cutting out the rain forests have done to the climate? jwirr Jun 2013 #85

It takes a while to go through, but the Skeptical Science article linked in the OP is excellent. Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #86