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Notafraidtoo

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80. I think the laws are too harsh.

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 03:14 AM

Jun 2013

Should it be illegal? yes Should the 18 year old be on the sex offender list? absolutely not. consent of the 14 year old should matter. I think the parents should have a restraining order option maybe or something along those lines.

Where it gets complicated is the age its self. why is 4 years ok for me but not 6 if the 18 year old is in the same school as the 14 year old etc. Its not as black and white as the laws make it out to be.

Imagine your 14 year old son or daughter thinking for the rest of their life that someone they really liked or even loved is now ruined forever. Thats got to be a mind fuck.

When i was in high school both girls and boys 14 had sex at every party i went to,I lost my virginity at 14 with a girl that was 17 I never felt it was a mistake nor was it something i regretted,so if you are worried about about your son having sex keep him away from party's cause times have changed and if he has any social skills he will likely have sex.

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What if Kevin had committed statutory rape instead of Kaitlynn? [View all] NaturalHigh May 2013 OP

I knew a Kevin loyalsister May 2013 #1

I also think they are being consistent. NaturalHigh May 2013 #2

I've seen it to loyalsister May 2013 #3

The inconsistency reflects physical reality eridani Jun 2013 #85

How do you know? loyalsister Jun 2013 #87

Psychological abuse is certainly possible with either eridani Jun 2013 #99

Assume the same encounter that happened with Kate happened instead with Kevin. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #96

I'm talking about known facts that inform relationships eridani Jun 2013 #100

Assuming that the statistics to which you refer are correct... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #101

I'm a lot more certain that the 14 year old is much less likely to sustain physical damage eridani Jun 2013 #105

Okay, just to clarify... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #106

14 year olds should not be having sex with anyone. eridani Jun 2013 #109

I can see your point, but I don't think the law should discriminate in her favor. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #110

The law needs to consider actual harm, period eridani Jun 2013 #111

Then I will respectfully disagree with your opinion and be on my way. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #112

You ever see one of these? snooper2 Jun 2013 #118

Something of a minority taste among lesbians, AFAIK n/t eridani Jun 2013 #119

Well... let's see now... I have a SON who happens to be a teenager. ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #4

Seriously? NaturalHigh May 2013 #6

Seriously... or get them out of school together if one magically becomes an adult at 18. nt ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #9

This ignorant logic. joeglow3 Jun 2013 #90

Yeah, I don't see how "they went to school together"... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #97

Yes, because that's exactly what I said... ScreamingMeemie Jun 2013 #102

Yes, that was your justification joeglow3 Jun 2013 #104

There is also a difference between being OK Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #66

The victims' parents in this case tried to have a family discussion. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #72

Not go to the police at all. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #74

Then I will just respectfully disagree with you. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #75

I totally agree. nt laundry_queen May 2013 #23

I wonder if Kaitlynn was straight sarisataka May 2013 #5

When I was fourteen, I was in a school play with a girl who was eighteen. NaturalHigh May 2013 #7

You have good parents sarisataka May 2013 #11

I have a 15-year-old son. NaturalHigh May 2013 #15

Most people are more accepting when a teen boy has sex with an older woman davidn3600 May 2013 #16

Most people are also more tolerant when two high school students LanternWaste May 2013 #38

Amazing generalization. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #68

I'd have cared just as much, but have strongly opposed prosecuting. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #26

Probably not. Ganja Ninja Jun 2013 #122

...and this thread... Iggo May 2013 #8

What's with the "...and this thread..." that you keep posting? NaturalHigh May 2013 #12

he/she is addicted to letting people know snooper2 May 2013 #28

Oh, got it. NaturalHigh May 2013 #30

I suppose it's a case of... Dr. Strange May 2013 #43

I disagree with the law that designates it as statutory rape. phleshdef May 2013 #10

it would have been posted as another example of so called "rape culture" galileoreloaded May 2013 #13

I imagine you're right. NaturalHigh May 2013 #14

so-called? BainsBane Jun 2013 #56

Is Kaitlin promoting rape culture? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #62

You don't understand what rape culture is BainsBane Jun 2013 #65

Well, I have seen a lot of trivializing from Ms. Hunt's parents. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #67

I agree there is a double-standard here BainsBane Jun 2013 #70

I would think that current events suggest that society doesn't excuse rape. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #69

Really? BainsBane Jun 2013 #71

great question framing for the meek, but an implied assertion isnt really....anything. galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #77

You really have difficulty answering a question BainsBane Jun 2013 #78

what do you get out of constant reframes and attempted shaming? galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #120

Paranoid much? BainsBane Jun 2013 #125

All these threads demonstrate just what a bad idea legislating sex is. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #17

I understand where you're coming from... NaturalHigh May 2013 #18

Why? By whom? Me? You? It's not that anything is OK, but trying to stop nature Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #24

Actually... NaturalHigh May 2013 #25

How do you arrive at that conclusion? Talk to nearly any good looking young woman, she can tell you Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #31

You don't think statutory rape laws keep this from happening more often? NaturalHigh May 2013 #32

But, that's exactly what happens. Lives ruined forever... Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #35

Children cannot give informed consent; having sex with children should be illegal. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #27

No sex involving a 14 year old is consentual, as 14 year olds can't give consent TransitJohn May 2013 #53

And slipping the date rape drug to your wife Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #73

I fail to see how your post applies to the topic of discussion. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #76

The post I was replying to: Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #81

Did you hurt your neck with that disconnect? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #79

Not even with another 14 year old? quakerboy Jun 2013 #107

The point is what is too young for an adult Spike89 Jun 2013 #130

How often do you hear of high school boys being prosecuted pnwmom May 2013 #19

You never hear about it. NaturalHigh May 2013 #20

What this comes down to is people's messy personal and parental lives ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #21

It's hard to argue with your post. NaturalHigh May 2013 #22

I would feel the same LostOne4Ever May 2013 #29

then the victim's character would be under assault on social media and elsewhere fishwax May 2013 #33

Would the parents have reported Kevin to the police? KamaAina May 2013 #34

Sex is really scary and a sin and decisions about it should be left to others... Demo_Chris May 2013 #36

Males get charged with this all the time madville May 2013 #37

You are right. That happens all the time. NaturalHigh May 2013 #41

men have traditionally been the most oppressed group of all. La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #39

Help, Help, I'm being repressed NewJeffCT May 2013 #45

i know right. totally unfair. i feel terrible for you. La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #49

From another GD post: NaturalHigh May 2013 #50

Should the case against an alleged sex offender be dropped because she happens to be a lesbian? NaturalHigh May 2013 #48

Kevin would have gotten quite a few pats on his back from his friends... LanternWaste May 2013 #40

I knew senior boys who dated freshman girls when I was in high school gollygee May 2013 #42

So do you think that a teenage boy in Ms. Hunt's situation... NaturalHigh May 2013 #44

No, but I don't think it would have reached prosecution gollygee May 2013 #46

Well, unfortunately, I can't disagree with you about the Steubenville comment. NaturalHigh May 2013 #47

Don't be silly customerserviceguy May 2013 #51

I hadn't thought of it like that. NaturalHigh May 2013 #52

You got it customerserviceguy May 2013 #54

When I was in university a female adjunct got nabbed with a teen girl Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2013 #61

I figured it out when I went to university nearly forty years ago customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #88

I think they just don't want to be perceived as criticizing a particular group, Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2013 #98

+1 NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #108

Good point. customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #114

The fact is lots of Kevins are charged BainsBane May 2013 #55

and was he charged with a felony? dlwickham Jun 2013 #58

Yes, he pleaded guilty to a second degree rape, a felony BainsBane Jun 2013 #59

was he dating the girl dlwickham Jun 2013 #91

good fucking god dlwickham Jun 2013 #57

I guess "rape" isn't one thing. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #60

Lets see, yet another thread to trash Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #63

Why, because it raises a question that makes you uncomfortable? NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #64

Heheh, such humility, try not to rate your "profound" dribbles to high Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #86

I don't even know what your post is trying to say. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #93

I'm supposed to be bothered? Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #94

Not at all. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #95

I think the laws are too harsh. Notafraidtoo Jun 2013 #80

That's a conversation worth having. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #82

She could have become pregnant. pnwmom Jun 2013 #83

Odds are high that Kevin did not use physical force nor impregnate a 14 year old eridani Jun 2013 #84

I'd still have the same issue with it treestar Jun 2013 #89

Actually, that's one of the lies that the Hunt family put out to the media. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #92

They knew each other before, though and it was OK to date treestar Jun 2013 #113

I don't necessarily disagree with much of anything that you posted... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #115

I understand treestar Jun 2013 #116

Frankly, I don't think it's okay for 14-year-olds to be having sex. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #117

Under the same circumstances, I'd sign-on for Kevin. Ian David Jun 2013 #103

In order for it to be the same circumstances 18 year old Kevin would have to be ... Ganja Ninja Jun 2013 #121

That's because too many of us have the same policy on homosexuality as Vivid Video. n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #123

What policy is that? NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #124

Vivid Video only has girl/girl and no guy/guy stuff. n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #126

I believe they have a subsidiary that publishes guy/guy. jeff47 Jun 2013 #131

A child is a child is a child. nt clarice Jun 2013 #127

I agree with you. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #128

And I agree with you.nt clarice Jun 2013 #129

So, sex between two 17-years-and-364-days people should be illegal? (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #132

no, not if it is consensual. nt clarice Jun 2013 #133

But they're both children. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #135

As I said. A child is a child. nt clarice Jun 2013 #136

But you also say that sex between them should not be illegal. jeff47 Jun 2013 #137

A very sticky issue to be sure. nt clarice Jun 2013 #138

They'd be clamoring to have his balls cut off. And everyone knows it. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #134

That's my opinion too. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #140

PLONK! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #139