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In reply to the discussion: Curious about marriage versus long-term partnership logic thoughts. [View all]Laelth
(32,017 posts)73. Dr. Willard Harley describes three types of romantic relationships.
In relationships there are freeloaders, renters, and buyers, according to Harley. Each form of relationship has its own unstated premises and rules, and each kind can meet some of a person's emotional needs, but marriage, he argues, is a "buyer's agreement," and, just as we do with real estate and other property, we tend to value, nurture, cherish, and protect property we buy much more than property we rent or borrow.
Freeloader is unwilling to put much effort into the care of his or her partner in a romantic relationship. He or she does only what comes naturally and expects only what comes naturally. It's like a person who tries to live in a house without paying rent or doing anything to improve it unless the person is in the mood to do so.
Renter is willing to provide limited care as long as it's in his or her best interest. The romantic relationship is considered tentative, so the care is viewed as short-term. It's like a person who rents a house and is willing to stay as long as the conditions seem fair, or until he or she finds something better. The person is willing to pay reasonable rent and keep the house clean but is not willing to make repairs or improvements. It's the landlord's job to keep the place attractive enough for the renter to stay and continue paying rent.
Buyer is willing to demonstrate an extraordinary sense of care by making permanent changes in his or her own behavior and lifestyle to make the romantic relationship mutually fulfilling. Solutions to problems are long-term solutions and must work well for both partners because the romantic relationship is viewed as exclusive and permanent. It's like a person who buys a house for life with a willingness to make repairs that accomodate changing needs, painting the walls, installing new carper, replacing the roof, and even doing some remodeling so that it can be comfortable and useful.
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Renter is willing to provide limited care as long as it's in his or her best interest. The romantic relationship is considered tentative, so the care is viewed as short-term. It's like a person who rents a house and is willing to stay as long as the conditions seem fair, or until he or she finds something better. The person is willing to pay reasonable rent and keep the house clean but is not willing to make repairs or improvements. It's the landlord's job to keep the place attractive enough for the renter to stay and continue paying rent.
Buyer is willing to demonstrate an extraordinary sense of care by making permanent changes in his or her own behavior and lifestyle to make the romantic relationship mutually fulfilling. Solutions to problems are long-term solutions and must work well for both partners because the romantic relationship is viewed as exclusive and permanent. It's like a person who buys a house for life with a willingness to make repairs that accomodate changing needs, painting the walls, installing new carper, replacing the roof, and even doing some remodeling so that it can be comfortable and useful.
http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2332882
Ultimately, Harley recommends against shacking-up long term because people in those kinds of relationships set patterns and build habits that are not conducive to long-term happiness. Marriage, Harley says, is the way to go. It's a buyer's relationship, and in it one is promising to put the emotional well-being of one's partner first, as opposed to a renter's agreement in which our own happiness comes first and we are merely waiting to see whether our partner will live up to our expectations and make us happy. That, Harley suggests, is emotionally destructive.
Personally, I found this distinction quite useful. YMMV.
-Laelth
Edit:Laelth-misspelled author's name originally.
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Curious about marriage versus long-term partnership logic thoughts. [View all]
IdaBriggs
May 2013
OP
He is the first born in his family, and his younger brother is involved with someone.
IdaBriggs
May 2013
#5
My sons are in their 50s so not looking for anyone in that age category. Just kidding really,
monmouth3
May 2013
#13
why does putting a ring on someone's finger and getting married have to mean you own them?
liberal_at_heart
May 2013
#33
Every man for himself, eh? All of the language you use about relationships is I think
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#70
for some, marriage is a necessity for the children, without it the kids are not legit
loli phabay
May 2013
#6
east coast, papers dont matter with us either but there is structure to families that important
loli phabay
Jun 2013
#87
Please don't take this the wrong way, but one of the things you wrote is one of the big reasons
Egalitarian Thug
May 2013
#14
People in a long term relationship know that they are in the relationship because they want to be.
liberal_at_heart
May 2013
#17
Decreasingly, is there a reason for long-term partnered people to actually get married?
Chan790
May 2013
#34
This from a happily divorced woman: Emotional marriage is unstable, and financial marriage
lindysalsagal
May 2013
#35
Truthfully, when entering a partnership, I think both folks need to look at --
IdaBriggs
May 2013
#40
I wouldn't say very few. A marriage has just as good a chance to work as it does not to.
liberal_at_heart
May 2013
#48
not if you have an honest conversation about both the good and the bad.
liberal_at_heart
May 2013
#58
there is just something special about being in a long term relationship or marriage that unless
liberal_at_heart
May 2013
#50
I'm sorry you went through that. I understand why you wouldn't want to get married again, but
liberal_at_heart
May 2013
#62
"It's Complicated", unless you're our parents, then it is really, really clear.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Jun 2013
#88