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davidn3600

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21. I dont believe ACA does much of anything to reduce costs

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 08:48 PM

Jun 2013

The purpose of the law was not necessarily to make healthcare cheaper, but to expand it to make sure everyone has access.

Cost is a different ball of wax and far more complicated.

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Colonoscopies Explain Why U.S. Leads the World in Health Expenditures [View all] n2doc Jun 2013 OP

Yet many here are claiming the cost of healthcare is from people getting these tests BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #1

I dont believe ACA does much of anything to reduce costs davidn3600 Jun 2013 #21

Here, ProSense Jun 2013 #54

Excellent Article marions ghost Jun 2013 #2

Article really hits a nerve on medical care costs in US matt819 Jun 2013 #3

we need single payer healthcare. We need to force clinics and hospitals to disclose prices and liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #4

You shouldn't shop around adieu Jun 2013 #18

Hospitals are charging hundreds of dollars for an aspirin. We need to be able to liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #22

But that same hospital adieu Jun 2013 #24

then that needs to be part of the transparency. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #27

Holy shit! graywarrior Jun 2013 #5

Bad! ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #15

Thank you. Thank you very much. graywarrior Jun 2013 #19

those cats are in my FACE again Skittles Jun 2013 #45

Are you yelling or just excited to see me? graywarrior Jun 2013 #53

Healthcare in America is an industry - a profiteeering crime Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #6

Guess how much it costs for a colonoscopy in Hong Kong, one of the most capitalistic places on earth 2bornot2b Jun 2013 #7

Talk about taking it up the.... SCVDem Jun 2013 #8

"Please roll up your sleeve and bend over." longship Jun 2013 #9

It's aliens, I tell ya. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #10

Bush brain scans are largely an unnecessary money maker meow2u3 Jun 2013 #11

BOHICA, literally. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #12

i just cancelled my appt for one. Can't afford it. progressoid Jun 2013 #13

This just makes me sick. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #14

i'm 71 and never had one either and DesertFlower Jun 2013 #16

Great minds think alike. I've read flu shots may present a problem for "mature" folks. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #17

no history of breast cancer. i did get DesertFlower Jun 2013 #20

I'm not going to "flame" you, but I wll say this. Once I turned fifty, I had the procedure done SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #25

no history of colon cancer either and to be honest DesertFlower Jun 2013 #29

I can understand you desire to "not know" if anything is wrong. Many people I know have that SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #38

thank you for your kind words. DesertFlower Jun 2013 #39

My father thought looking out for his general health meant he didn't need to go to the liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #32

I'm with you, just a little younger, 64. SheilaT Jun 2013 #26

I see your problem. Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #31

Um, my friend fortunately had a mammogram... a la izquierda Jun 2013 #47

There are ALWAYS exceptions, but mammograms @ that age are NOT recommended Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #55

There is a risk associated with colonoscopies lunasun Jun 2013 #30

There is a risk of puncturing your colon Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #34

They also don't sterilize between uses, they only disinfect. roamer65 Jun 2013 #37

What's the difference between sterilize and disinfect? (n/t) Jim Lane Jun 2013 #43

Steam and pressure that kills all bacteria and virus. roamer65 Jun 2013 #52

Damaging the colon, and risk from anesthesia, if they use that. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #56

thank you all & learned some things here I usually don't hear about lunasun Jun 2013 #64

There are families where entire generations of siblings have died of heritable colorectal cancer Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #49

Of course. The normal rules don't apply to those high risk cases. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #57

My dad died from colon cancer at 66 exboyfil Jun 2013 #51

You are in a high risk category. The normal rules don't apply to you. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #58

Hospital conglomerates are a big part of the cost problem. Flatulo Jun 2013 #23

Mind-boggling adric mutelovic Jun 2013 #28

My sister coded on a colonoscopy. Destroyed her liver AND kidneys. These are NOT benign tests riderinthestorm Jun 2013 #33

A colonoscopy definitely can be a double edge sword. roamer65 Jun 2013 #35

15 months post-op and she IS doing well!! Thanks!! nt riderinthestorm Jun 2013 #40

That's why it's always important to choose one's doctor carefully for any risky procedure Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #50

Cal Pacific Med Center in San Francisco. One of the best out there riderinthestorm Jun 2013 #72

What does "coded" mean? You mean it punctured her colon? Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #59

She died during the procedure. "Code blue" means an emergency resuscitation team is needed stat riderinthestorm Jun 2013 #71

Oh, no. I'm so sorry to hear that. Wow, that's scary. (shudder) Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #73

She had undiagnosed hemolytic anemia so she basically hemorrhaged as soon as they took 1st polyp riderinthestorm Jun 2013 #74

All those charges and healthcare groups still lose money. ileus Jun 2013 #36

I hope that by the time I have to have another one ThoughtCriminal Jun 2013 #41

Next time get prescribed SUPREP Submariner Jun 2013 #42

I've read there is now a virtual colonoscopy. I don't know if it's being used yet. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #60

As I understand it... ThoughtCriminal Jun 2013 #68

We thought there was no history of colon cancer in our family Sugarcoated Jun 2013 #44

so sorry about your sister, Sugarcoated Skittles Jun 2013 #46

Wow, your brother is extremely lucky. Sugarcoated Jun 2013 #62

definitely keep up with those checkups! Skittles Jun 2013 #70

There are less riskier, less invasive tests that are almost as good. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #61

It's not as risky as it's being discussed here Sugarcoated Jun 2013 #63

I have the fecal test, which finds cancer but not polyps. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #66

I avoided a colonoscopy for fifteen years Silver Swan Jun 2013 #67

I think this is for tax purposes and they can write off the difference as a "loss" cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #48

No, it wouldn't affect their taxes. Jim Lane Jun 2013 #65

I'm having a colonoscopy on Tuesday Cronus Protagonist Jun 2013 #69