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FarCenter

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42. An objective of the foreign student programs was to train leaders for developing countries
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jun 2013

The idea was that developing countries would send us their best and brightest, they would get great US higher educations, and then they would go back to the country of origin to form the political, managerial, and professional cadre to assist in their country's development. It probably didn't work that well for scientists and engineers, since the sending countries didn't have the business infrastructure to make use of them when they went back. A lot of times they wound as bureaucrats in some government institution.

Obama's father would have fallen in that category. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama,_Sr.

Keeping them here sort of defeats that "foreign aid" objective of the programs. However, it wouldn't apply to places like India or China or many of the other countries any more.

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Bullhockey. They want slave labor, because these workers typically are willing to work for a peanuts peacebird Jun 2013 #1
I agree Andy823 Jun 2013 #6
From the article, average pay is $80k per year? bhikkhu Jun 2013 #21
The cases I am familiar with are paid half that. Can't speak to those listed in the article.... peacebird Jun 2013 #31
if the median wage kept pace with inflation since the 70s it would be 90k usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #33
Then you don't live in Silicon Valley alittlelark Jun 2013 #34
That is true bhikkhu Jun 2013 #36
Stanford, Berkely, and a few other good schools alittlelark Jun 2013 #47
absolute bullshit. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #2
i honestly don't know what 'ultra elite' is in the tech world. xchrom Jun 2013 #3
whatever it is, it's not the majority of h1b holders. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #4
True. Ultra-elite do not make entry level wages which is what the majority of H-1Bs make DotGone Jun 2013 #45
I live in this world.... the 'ultra-elite' are 1 in 10,000 alittlelark Jun 2013 #48
Stereotypes are rather like program defaults...they replace thoughtfulness HereSince1628 Jun 2013 #5
Elite software developers are to software as elite authors are to literature FarCenter Jun 2013 #7
MANY H1B's are foreign students coming out of US universities elehhhhna Jun 2013 #8
The ones they are looking for come out of US graduate school programs with advanced degrees FarCenter Jun 2013 #13
yep - you forgot "paid full rate so got preference in acceptance" elehhhhna Jun 2013 #16
That would mainly be for those who come for undergraduate programs FarCenter Jun 2013 #17
you have only to look at the h1b stats in tech to know what bullshit that is. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #35
That's the basis of his argument Recursion Jun 2013 #14
The US having good schools, attracting the smartest students from the other countries treestar Jun 2013 #41
An objective of the foreign student programs was to train leaders for developing countries FarCenter Jun 2013 #42
That applies probably to very few treestar Jun 2013 #44
Hmmmmm. Interesting. I wonder if that's true? nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #9
"it's difficult to understate the positive economic benefits that additional high-skill immigrants midnight Jun 2013 #10
Maybe if we didn't have conservatives gutting science education in our schools... baldguy Jun 2013 #11
What an awful comments section BI has! Laelth Jun 2013 #12
Warning: Computer repair used to pay 35k ...now it's 15k. Same thing will happen... L0oniX Jun 2013 #15
It already has, although the process is not complete. I've been listening to the lies Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #18
There are very few H1Bs... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #19
An A+ really is different from a C+ Uzair Jun 2013 #20
You left out an a+ from 1 school = c+ xchrom Jun 2013 #22
So are there any statistics to back this up? DireStrike Jun 2013 #24
The United States has the most productive workforce on Earth. Laelth Jun 2013 #27
Productivity doesn't say much about the quality of American workers FarCenter Jun 2013 #29
The only truth in your post is in your header and first sentence HangOnKids Jun 2013 #39
The US is used to getting the A students from everywhere treestar Jun 2013 #40
It starts earlier than college nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #46
I see nothing in this article supporting the claim that american talent is sub-par. -nt- DireStrike Jun 2013 #23
it isn't -- they're talking about some 'global elite'. xchrom Jun 2013 #25
In neither case is the article coherent! DireStrike Jun 2013 #26
I bet this is more about new development models than it is about talent. patrice Jun 2013 #28
If corps want "ultra-elite" STEM workers, then why aren't they hiring from Northern Europe? Yavin4 Jun 2013 #30
Are you kidding, many of the best high-tech companies in the world brightest's brains got their usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #37
More corporate BS. It is all about the money, numb-nuts even let it slip out in his article usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #32
Spot on. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #38
I partly believe it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #43
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