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nadinbrzezinski

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43. I partly believe it

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 05:53 PM

Jun 2013

STEM is not a priority until college...period.

Other countries do heavily invest in it much earlier.

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Americans Won't Like Hearing The Real Reason That Silicon Valley Is Pushing So Hard For Immigration [View all] xchrom Jun 2013 OP

Bullhockey. They want slave labor, because these workers typically are willing to work for a peanuts peacebird Jun 2013 #1

I agree Andy823 Jun 2013 #6

From the article, average pay is $80k per year? bhikkhu Jun 2013 #21

The cases I am familiar with are paid half that. Can't speak to those listed in the article.... peacebird Jun 2013 #31

if the median wage kept pace with inflation since the 70s it would be 90k usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #33

Then you don't live in Silicon Valley alittlelark Jun 2013 #34

That is true bhikkhu Jun 2013 #36

Stanford, Berkely, and a few other good schools alittlelark Jun 2013 #47

absolute bullshit. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #2

i honestly don't know what 'ultra elite' is in the tech world. xchrom Jun 2013 #3

whatever it is, it's not the majority of h1b holders. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #4

True. Ultra-elite do not make entry level wages which is what the majority of H-1Bs make DotGone Jun 2013 #45

I live in this world.... the 'ultra-elite' are 1 in 10,000 alittlelark Jun 2013 #48

Stereotypes are rather like program defaults...they replace thoughtfulness HereSince1628 Jun 2013 #5

Elite software developers are to software as elite authors are to literature FarCenter Jun 2013 #7

MANY H1B's are foreign students coming out of US universities elehhhhna Jun 2013 #8

The ones they are looking for come out of US graduate school programs with advanced degrees FarCenter Jun 2013 #13

yep - you forgot "paid full rate so got preference in acceptance" elehhhhna Jun 2013 #16

That would mainly be for those who come for undergraduate programs FarCenter Jun 2013 #17

you have only to look at the h1b stats in tech to know what bullshit that is. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #35

That's the basis of his argument Recursion Jun 2013 #14

The US having good schools, attracting the smartest students from the other countries treestar Jun 2013 #41

An objective of the foreign student programs was to train leaders for developing countries FarCenter Jun 2013 #42

That applies probably to very few treestar Jun 2013 #44

Hmmmmm. Interesting. I wonder if that's true? nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #9

"it's difficult to understate the positive economic benefits that additional high-skill immigrants midnight Jun 2013 #10

Maybe if we didn't have conservatives gutting science education in our schools... baldguy Jun 2013 #11

What an awful comments section BI has! Laelth Jun 2013 #12

Warning: Computer repair used to pay 35k ...now it's 15k. Same thing will happen... L0oniX Jun 2013 #15

It already has, although the process is not complete. I've been listening to the lies Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #18

There are very few H1Bs... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #19

An A+ really is different from a C+ Uzair Jun 2013 #20

You left out an a+ from 1 school = c+ xchrom Jun 2013 #22

So are there any statistics to back this up? DireStrike Jun 2013 #24

The United States has the most productive workforce on Earth. Laelth Jun 2013 #27

Productivity doesn't say much about the quality of American workers FarCenter Jun 2013 #29

The only truth in your post is in your header and first sentence HangOnKids Jun 2013 #39

The US is used to getting the A students from everywhere treestar Jun 2013 #40

It starts earlier than college nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #46

I see nothing in this article supporting the claim that american talent is sub-par. -nt- DireStrike Jun 2013 #23

it isn't -- they're talking about some 'global elite'. xchrom Jun 2013 #25

In neither case is the article coherent! DireStrike Jun 2013 #26

I bet this is more about new development models than it is about talent. patrice Jun 2013 #28

If corps want "ultra-elite" STEM workers, then why aren't they hiring from Northern Europe? Yavin4 Jun 2013 #30

Are you kidding, many of the best high-tech companies in the world brightest's brains got their usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #37

More corporate BS. It is all about the money, numb-nuts even let it slip out in his article usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #32

Spot on. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #38

I partly believe it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #43