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Ms. Toad

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90. Neither of the links you posted

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 11:18 PM

Jun 2013

are granular enough to provide relevant information.

There are 100+ strains - only a few are associated with cervical cancer.

Are those infections which are transient the ones associated with cervical cancer?

With 100+ strains, 95% being transient is still consistent with the remaining 5% being potentially deadly. If the point of the vaccine is to protect against the strains associated with cervical (and other) cancers, and those strains are not transient, who cares that the others are? Nothing in the article provided enough information to answer that critical question.

Not to mention that the quotes are misleading - in that they omit the "but" portion of the comments: "though they are likely to be re-infected if they are sexually active."

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Michael Douglas says oral sex caused his throat cancer [View all] Bennyboy Jun 2013 OP

What the actual fuck? Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #1

Indeed. HPV causes oral and genital and anal cancers. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #4

So that was caused by HPV? flamingdem Jun 2013 #7

the vaccine isn't limited to women. HPV Vaccine Showing Successes in Australia xchrom Jun 2013 #10

I happen to think that ALL women and ALL men should be vaccinated for HPV. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #22

Young women's own bodies spontaneously rid themselves of HPV. This is an established medical fact. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #40

Mine did not. Viva_La_Revolution Jun 2013 #49

Exactly. RiffRandell Jun 2013 #50

you are in an very, very small minority. And I am also glad you are okay. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #65

I'm having an wart outbreak right now on both my finger and private parts. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #92

Best of luck with your doctor visit flamingdem Jun 2013 #99

I could not agree more... SkyDaddy7 Jun 2013 #43

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #97

I don't think it works past a certain age. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #112

And it causes Penile cancer (cancer of the penis). Think about it. SharonAnn Jun 2013 #53

It's true Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #12

My cousin died at the age of 55 after treatment for cancer of the throat. hedgehog Jun 2013 #52

He might be right about that, HPV can do that Warpy Jun 2013 #2

Farrah Fawcett got anal cancer from HPV. It DOES do that. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #5

IIRC, they can analyze the cancer and determine the source. Yes? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2013 #13

Not as far as I know. They do that with rabies, to determine which species strain it is kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #23

It looks like they can. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2013 #26

+1 LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #6

Right, more so than anything else. demosincebirth Jun 2013 #87

Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2013 #3

M. Bachmann said the vaccine causes mental retardation MNBrewer Jun 2013 #8

Happened to a close friend superpatriotman Jun 2013 #9

Yes... PCIntern Jun 2013 #11

Who is most at risk? flamingdem Jun 2013 #16

"It's not really sex" generation.... PCIntern Jun 2013 #17

My dentist checks. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2013 #21

'err on the side of caution' Rex Jun 2013 #100

HPV lets you blame the pussy for everything again. Yippee VAGINA DENTATA REDUX. Douglas is a Monk06 Jun 2013 #14

Or someone's dick... PCIntern Jun 2013 #15

My wife's dad died of throat cancer. He drank a quart of scotch his whole life. Ad cigarettes and Monk06 Jun 2013 #24

EtOH and tobacco are promoters.... PCIntern Jun 2013 #36

You are way off base. MattBaggins Jun 2013 #79

* Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #18

The point of using the word pussy twice is to show my contempt for Douglas. The irony was lost Monk06 Jun 2013 #25

Take a pill. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2013 #29

silly. I did not Alert. I was on the jury. sheesh. whatever. Peace. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #30

Sorry I should have checked more closely. No offence. Monk06 Jun 2013 #37

How would using the word "pussy" show contempt for a man?...Doesn't make a lot of sense. whathehell Jun 2013 #44

Your contempt for Douglas is irrelevant MattBaggins Jun 2013 #80

Reducing women to a body part Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #88

Your point may have been lost, but your character is now well illustrated. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #116

A biopsy can determine if it is HPV. If he was cheating than I see your anger but if he didn't it is hrmjustin Jun 2013 #19

It's very real and incidence is rising in developed countries Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #20

How do you really know what caused it? And I applaud Douglas for his candor. Auggie Jun 2013 #33

What is "nice" about a biological agent - bacteria and viruses question everything Jun 2013 #114

He could have simply stayed with the term "oral sex." But then he must be worried that he'd be WinkyDink Jun 2013 #27

HPV doesn't discriminate by type of oral sex tavalon Jun 2013 #32

Supports my point. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #42

Yep. Grossness. I didn't need to closeupready Jun 2013 #35

Or, maybe he figured.. opiate69 Jun 2013 #46

Yes, I am sure that was his worry. Socal31 Jun 2013 #110

Well, the news is finally getting out tavalon Jun 2013 #28

So HPV was to blame for the spike in throat cancer in men? Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #31

simply posting this to emphasize and draw attention to your post. The fact about HPV is young women KittyWampus Jun 2013 #39

I think you may be mistaken about young women clearing HPV virus. hedgehog Jun 2013 #51

It's not odds. It's the overwhelming majority of young women. I'll repost this once more: KittyWampus Jun 2013 #64

5% of 630 million is still a lot of women dsc Jun 2013 #83

I only wish you were correct. The 4cm tumor in my tonsil that was removed 2 yrs ago says you're not NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #63

I posted to links to established medical facts about young women and HPV. I'll post them here again KittyWampus Jun 2013 #66

All of the information you provided is specific to HPV cervical cancer, not HPV-associated oral n/t NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #67

Your conclusions on the need for HPV vaccines in young women MattBaggins Jun 2013 #85

That last link is over 10 years old. RiffRandell Jun 2013 #86

this WOO is embarrassing- hope no one buys this crap. bettyellen Jun 2013 #105

Neither of the links you posted Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #90

You are totally and completely wrong. Soundman Jun 2013 #104

She is, thank you for posting the correct info. bettyellen Jun 2013 #106

That is so scary. RiffRandell Jun 2013 #113

TMI PDittie Jun 2013 #34

Always brush your teeth after doing that. RobertEarl Jun 2013 #38

Fuck it. I'm asking my doctor about getting the HPV vaccine. n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #41

Good for you! that's taking responsibility for your health! hedgehog Jun 2013 #54

TMI. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2013 #45

No, it isn't. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #93

I am a 2 year survivor of tonsillar cancer (stage 4) from HPV-16 NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #47

I know exactly what you mean. RiffRandell Jun 2013 #56

No problem. I look forward to my 5 year mark. Have the Dom P�rignon waiting in the closet n/t NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #60

Spooky.. aka-chmeee Jun 2013 #69

I wish you well. As you probably know, if you can make the 2 yr mark your odds of recurrence... NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #71

I made it through the treatments aka-chmeee Jun 2013 #94

Yep, "failure to thrive." I was there too. NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #108

I was an oral cancer caregiver to my husband and am pretty disgusted by some of the responses here. RiffRandell Jun 2013 #48

RiffRandell, Sissyk Jun 2013 #61

K & R Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #55

Well Aerows Jun 2013 #57

Go watch someone die of throat cancer... cynatnite Jun 2013 #68

Endure being a lesbian Aerows Jun 2013 #73

You were making light of throat cancer... cynatnite Jun 2013 #74

I don't make light of throat cancer Aerows Jun 2013 #77

You said you'd be glad to go that way if oral sex was the reason... cynatnite Jun 2013 #81

I strive to not be an asshole Aerows Jun 2013 #82

Zeta-Jones Aerows Jun 2013 #58

Like it or not, but loving acts can sometimes come with serious consequences. NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #62

Thanks, NoodleyAppendage Aerows Jun 2013 #75

After reading this thread tabasco Jun 2013 #59

"Without wanting to get too specific"..... Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #70

I know I shouldn't laugh rastaone Jun 2013 #72

Nope, you don't...it's HPV and it only takes one time to get it. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #76

Oh my rastaone Jun 2013 #78

As a male single geezer this kind of (no, it really does) sucks..... Bennyboy Jun 2013 #84

Make dental dams your new best friend. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #91

And tobacco is totally blameless. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #89

yeah-- I would imagine smoking could easily synergize with HPV to cause cancer NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #95

k&r HappyMe Jun 2013 #96

k and r Kali Jun 2013 #98

Hrm, I am hearing that he didn't actually say this. Xyzse Jun 2013 #101

I've had a feeding tube for going on 8 months olddots Jun 2013 #102

Oh no olddots. I am so, so very sorry. You know first hand then what is up with this... riderinthestorm Jun 2013 #111

Aw shoot, that's one of my favorite hobbies :( cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #103

So many DUers have experienced HPV but it's so rarely discussed flamingdem Jun 2013 #107

He actually said "Axl Rose", but the typesetter was dyslexic Tom Ripley Jun 2013 #109

Used to be Herpes question everything Jun 2013 #115