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napoleon_in_rags

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24. This is a good provocative post.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 01:39 AM
Jun 2013

But Kaku's way isn't the only way.

Some popular scientists who focus on the future we can have through technological change, like Michio Kaku, claim we may or may not survive in the way we consider it today. He says our chance is as a planetary civilization, not as nation-states, all working for a common goal.


Its what the scientific community has been pushing toward, and failing miserably, because all they do is run around seeking to build consensus in this direction. But building consensus is useless. Those who excel at it use their power almost exclusively to build their wealth and power more, and such altruistic endeavours as Kaku proposes are simply too expensive to any of them in such a competitive game.

A post that replies to this, I read as warning against human genetic engineering as a response. That's new territory for humans and the warning is wise, but nature has long been in the business of engineering life forms through evolution. In fact the lens of evolution - survival of that which works - can be used to view technologies, religions, social movements and the rest. The question is, what is the advantage of it for the unit of evolution: How does a technology, ideology, movement or anything else HELP those who embrace it.

This is what matters now IMHO. This country is dying with diabetes and obesity, and the solution, way more fruits and veggies, bike rides etc. Is the cure. It leads to a fit and joyful life. The economy is suffering, and the solution is connected communities with local production of goods and services. In addition to helping with those issues, these things help with climate change. Furthermore, those of us who know it's real are positioned to know some of the disasters coming. How do we help ourselves and others who know, and through empowering our own, give a way of being that other people will want to embrace, because it works, because it keeps you alive, and its joyful, and good.

That's the challenge now. Part of it is for the scientific community to accept that Star Trek world unity isn't here yet, and won't be. The world won't unify behind them but this small army will. We're still in nature's game, which is freedom: Every species, every ideology, gets some cards and lays them down. Some make it some don't. The focus of the community needs to be on playing their cards - and those who are with them - as well as possible. Find something that works, and the whole world will follow freely, no global government needed.

PEace!

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There's a good amount of evidence demonstrating that we have passed the point of no return. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #1
Oh I couldn't agree more xenoturkey Jun 2013 #2
We have to essentially stop using fossil fuel entirely. Being that's not going to happen... Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #3
You and me both will probably be in the ground before this problem deals with itself. xenoturkey Jun 2013 #5
Adapt RobertEarl Jun 2013 #4
I love it though I think you were being facetious xenoturkey Jun 2013 #6
Oh I just got it. xenoturkey Jun 2013 #7
Facetious? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #12
You already know English is not my first language xenoturkey Jun 2013 #14
Hey, you're cool, right? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #15
Believe me... xenoturkey Jun 2013 #17
Groove with it. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #8
I don't think its funny xenoturkey Jun 2013 #10
And my answer is a valid one. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #18
Oh I didn't mean it in that respect xenoturkey Jun 2013 #21
Oh I see, I thought you didn't take my words seriously. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #22
Oh quite seriously xenoturkey Jun 2013 #23
It won't kill millions of people if we give them the power to move, as peoples did in the past. freshwest Jun 2013 #19
I agree with some of it. xenoturkey Jun 2013 #20
This is a good provocative post. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #24
Good advice, action is all we can do. Fear is paralyzing and divisive. freshwest Jun 2013 #16
We're already f*ked, just enjoy every moment of it. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #9
I have my doubts... xenoturkey Jun 2013 #11
Just again xenoturkey Jun 2013 #13
Climate change is ok Edim Jun 2013 #25
Climate change is not "okay' by any stretch of the imagination. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #26
it's the reality of nature Edim Jun 2013 #29
Do you not believe in anthropogenic climate change? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #31
I do, Edim Jun 2013 #33
Rank global warming denialism cprise Jun 2013 #32
The alleged AGW started (became significant) after ~1960. Edim Jun 2013 #34
Go collect your $10 from the Koch Brothers Gabby Hayes Jun 2013 #36
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #37
No, you're way off cprise Jun 2013 #38
All I can think about are my children and theirs... defacto7 Jun 2013 #27
Move in together. Earn income from home. Reduce, re-use, recycle, restore . . . patrice Jun 2013 #28
Make sure that women have education and career prospects cprise Jun 2013 #30
Your best weapon is 21st Century communications Gabby Hayes Jun 2013 #35
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