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47. It's an efficient model when

Mon Jun 3, 2013, 01:55 AM

Jun 2013

You have law enforcement backing and the power to seize property and send people to prison for not paying. Most businesses would increase efficiency and profits with that model.

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The IRS sucks? Then we need more sucking! [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 OP

Employers send in taxes. former9thward Jun 2013 #1

The IRS has to go collect monies owed. PayPal simply denies the transaction if MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #3

Hmmm. I've been simply sending lots of money to the IRS for the past umpteen years Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #6

Why don't you try an experiment? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #8

LOL SunSeeker Jun 2013 #42

. madokie Jun 2013 #57

That was kind of their point in post 1 joeglow3 Jun 2013 #64

The only reason employers send in taxes is so that the IRS doesn't come to the business TheDebbieDee Jun 2013 #10

No you don't know the law. former9thward Jun 2013 #14

You are as naive as you are rude! Businesses don't pay taxes or do anything TheDebbieDee Jun 2013 #31

You are an authoritarian. former9thward Jun 2013 #34

Grow up and open your eyes. We're not living in a Utopia. People don't always TheDebbieDee Jun 2013 #38

We should be more like... MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #41

That's hilarious. People go to PayPal voluntarily. They pay the vig voluntarily. Why are you rhett o rick Jun 2013 #13

The poster I was replying to brought up Pay Pal. former9thward Jun 2013 #17

And again I say that PayPal doesnt need the power of prison. I bet very few people try to stiff rhett o rick Jun 2013 #22

Is it even *possible* to stiff PayPal? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #33

Greece has similar laws yet tax evasion is epic dsc Jun 2013 #28

Do you have a point here? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #35

that the IRS deserves a bit of credit for the difference. dsc Jun 2013 #52

I appreciate your desperate attempts to sell the status quo but rhett o rick Jun 2013 #53

Comparing other countries is always very dangerous. former9thward Jun 2013 #37

Do Greek IRS employees go to baseball games? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #39

The many, many self-employed in the US pay JDPriestly Jun 2013 #44

Why should we be paying for IRS employees to stay at hotels and go to baseball games? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #2

Perhaps because it works? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #4

So how many baseball games per year should every government employee attend at our expense, Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #5

I guess it depends on how good the seats are... I'd accept nothing less than Loge, Row AA... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #9

Why doesn't Costco cut wages by 2/3rds? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #11

would monetary bonus be OK? dsc Jun 2013 #12

No longer allowed. Cerridwen Jun 2013 #19

Why should average people who *never* receive a bonus Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #23

well I am an average or even below average in terms of income who just got a bonus dsc Jun 2013 #27

Instead of hating government employees because they haven't lost the things most of us used to get MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #30

Why don't "average people" receive bonuses? Maybe you're asking the wrong question. Cerridwen Jun 2013 #32

Are there any RW fallacies or bad ideas that you don't approve of Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #7

Wow. I never realized that free baseball games and fancy hotel stays for IRS employees Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #20

Taking care of employees is a time-honored progressive ideal. Cerridwen Jun 2013 #24

If one is to believe that you are what you purport yourself to be, "I never realized" Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #36

That's an excellent, insightful post. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #40

It was nothing. Really. But back to the question, are there any? n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #49

Yes, that's the problem with America. Government employees. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #15

Well, when I want to go to a baseball game I go to Ticketmaster. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #26

IMHO, this is the real IRS scandal. In 2012 there were 1.8 million identity theft victims. blue neen Jun 2013 #16

Perhaps if they spent more time on stuff like this, and less on swanky "conferences", Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #21

Let's hope that is what they were addressing at the conferences. blue neen Jun 2013 #25

The rightwing wants all employees to have low morale and operate like automated robots. No Fun. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #18

So in order to avoid this, all government employees should get to go to baseball games Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #29

Yeah rank and file government workers going to conferences and abelenkpe Jun 2013 #45

Oh no. Rumbled. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #46

You're only being called put for being petty abelenkpe Jun 2013 #48

sorry, it is an outrageous use of taxpayer dollars cali Jun 2013 #55

I agree. Maybe some decent office parties though and paid vacations as well. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #59

Paid vacation is actually productive. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #60

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2013 #43

It's an efficient model when madville Jun 2013 #47

Nah, I'm pretty sure most businesses would simply exploit that power to increase profits. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #50

We have had opposite experiences then madville Jun 2013 #51

Or perhaps we are talking about different things. The topic is, I believe, efficiency, not profits. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #63

Republicans spent $55 million on votes to repeal Obamacare ProSense Jun 2013 #54

Well, that is another utterly stupid waste of time, but I question the math. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #58

I love it when people get distracted by non issues. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #56

Manny I am tired of those buying the crap from the car thieve nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #61

I don't give a flying fuck of it's 1/100 of a percent, honey. It's still real money cali Jun 2013 #62

IRS is NOT efficient! Hardwarenuts Dec 2013 #65

Clearly a boot licker Bmore84 Nov 2014 #66