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19. Just for general thread info, the children weren't removed for their names or parents' beliefs
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jun 2013

That is Heath Campbell's assertion, because that's the issue he'd like to win on, but that's not why the kids were ultimately removed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/adolf-hitler-campbell-custody-battle-nazi-names-new-jersey_n_1561046.html

"A state appeals court ruled in 2010 that the children were put at risk of abuse and neglect based on a history of domestic violence in the home, ABC News reported. Deborah Campbell once slipped a note under a neighbor's door saying she was terrified of her husband because he had threatened to kill her, according to court documents. Adolf Hitler Campbell also frequently threatened to kill people, ABC News added.

Now, after a three-year battle, the Campbells cannot have custody of their children, according to the court. Heath Campbell last saw his children about a year ago and is now separated from his wife, who moved out of the state, the Star-Ledger reported.

Attorneys on both sides of the case are not allowed to speak to the press due to a gag order, but the children's father spoke out against the ruling. His kids weren't removed from their home for abuse, he argued, but for their parents' beliefs and the names they chose to reflect those sentiments.

"If I have to give up my Nazism, then so be it. I'll do it," Heath Campbell told the Star-Ledger. "[The children are] more my heart and soul and everything than anything."

Odious as he is, his free speech isn't being trampled. Plenty of hate group leaders don't get their kids taken away for their hateful crap. The children were removed for having their welfare in danger. (I must admit I do think raising children in a hateful environment is child abuse, but that isn't what this case is about.)

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I guess that's one way to impress the court! n/t zappaman Jun 2013 #1
yeah, this guy clearly missed the point of the hearing arely staircase Jun 2013 #33
And who said "The Onion" is dead! Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #2
This is what killed the Onion. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2013 #12
The Onion isn't dead. The article proclaiming its demise was meta-satire. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #26
Alerting! ... you said "META" nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2013 #29
i guess he doesn't want the kids back JI7 Jun 2013 #3
Well, if he's in the market for a new teapot, I have an idea. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #4
You win. zappaman Jun 2013 #5
You are so lucky I wasn't drinking my soda right then! Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #10
This guy and his wife are two people who should be forced not to produce more children.l southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #30
Duzy!!!!! dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #32
DUzy malaise Jun 2013 #34
His lawyer is Josef Geobbels Smith. rug Jun 2013 #6
They LOOSE! elleng Jun 2013 #7
I see a new reality TV series in the fall olddots Jun 2013 #8
Kindergarten Nazi. rug Jun 2013 #9
Perhaps not too surprisingly, Neo-Nazis don't tend to be the sharpest tools in the shed. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #11
so true nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #16
If only this were made up shenmue Jun 2013 #13
10 to 1 says he can't speak German. n/t cigsandcoffee Jun 2013 #14
I bet he's never read Mein Kompf either. /nt dballance Jun 2013 #23
It's extremely hard to read Mein Kampf jmowreader Jun 2013 #36
Don't be a stupid, be a smarty! Come and join the Nazi Party! Initech Jun 2013 #15
Is being a Nazi child abuse or neglect? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #17
although there was evidence of domestic abuse cali Jun 2013 #18
Teaching a child bigotry constitutes child abuse in my book. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #35
Just for general thread info, the children weren't removed for their names or parents' beliefs Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #19
Nah. They were pretty clearly removed because of the parents' believes. cali Jun 2013 #20
Here is more from the ABC story: Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #22
oh c'mon. I worked for years as a GAL cali Jun 2013 #24
I defer to your experience. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #25
Numerous news reports detail domestic abuse Major Nikon Jun 2013 #31
If I were the judge, I'd give him 30 days in the slammer for contempt for that get-up. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #21
His 15 minutes of fame and chances of winning his custody fight will end at the same moment. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #27
There is a perfectly innocent explanation. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #28
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