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NickB79

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32. Your links don't contradict mine
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:43 AM
Jun 2013

Your links all discuss small variations in well-known climate cycles, and the effects the small changes solar output has on them. No one has said that solar output has NO effect on the climate. What virtually all climatologists say is that the observed change in solar radiance is far too small to explain the warming trend we've seen.

Therefore, the solar forcing combined with the anthropogenic CO2 forcing and other minor forcings (such as decreased volcanic activity) can account for the 0.4°C warming in the early 20th century, with the solar forcing accounting for about 40% of the total warming. Over the past century, this increase in TSI is responsible for about 15-20% of global warming (Meehl 2004). But since TSI hasn't increased in at least the past 32 years (and more like 60 years, based on reconstructions), the Sun is not directly responsible for the warming over that period.

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No mention of global dimming in that article. Gregorian Jun 2013 #1
agreed but that also doesnt explain past warming/cooling events leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #2
Not this again, I can hear Inhofe already Peregrine Jun 2013 #3
Not new, debunked TrogL Jun 2013 #4
Good retortort to the notion that, "Though CO2 is a greenhouse gas... immoderate Jun 2013 #8
thanks i hadnt seen it before and thought it new leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #9
Apparently he keeps republishing the same old shit TrogL Jun 2013 #10
ThinkProgress says this is a revived theory, long debunked. LiberalAndProud Jun 2013 #5
Why can't it be numerous things together? Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #6
Because of the simplicity of our species Savannahmann Jun 2013 #7
It can be and is but the carbon contribution dominates all forcings. Viking12 Jun 2013 #23
thanks everyone. leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #11
Unrec. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #12
yes, i am finding that out leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #13
What interesting timing. Ms. Thug & I were discussing this last night. Summer hit us Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #14
This April was the coldest on record. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #15
You might notice that NY is neither the center of the universe nor in the desert southwest. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #17
But, no comment on sea ice? Arctic sea ice still argues high latitude warming continues... HereSince1628 Jun 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #18
"Same as if you leave your windows up on a hot day with your car in the sun, the temperature in leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #20
yea it acts like a blanket - like i said i wasnt buying it cause it doesnt explain previous leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #22
"this is due to the rays of light being lengthened as they pass thru the glass " muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #24
well i wonder where i heard that then leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #25
This woo-woo stuff is dangerous Hugabear Jun 2013 #26
Did the Koch brothers fund this study? n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #27
If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Edim Jun 2013 #28
This is not the scientific consensus NickB79 Jun 2013 #29
Solar variability, Ozone and Climate Edim Jun 2013 #31
Your links don't contradict mine NickB79 Jun 2013 #32
If all you are is a troll, everyone looks like an idiot. Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #30
Wow, I didn't even catch your O3 comment until now NickB79 Jun 2013 #33
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