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Pragdem

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296. I was kicked out of another thread about this and want to clear something up...

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:56 AM

Jun 2013

I called the protestor a "deviant," and someone thought I was referring to her sexuality. I never, ever use derogatory terms about the sexuality of others. Not even the juvenile "that's gay." And I have had many fights here in the rural area of my red state defending LGBTs against Christian bigotry.

Deviant is defined as: "Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society," and I can see how someone would misinterpret that as a shot in the dark at her sexuality... but I would apply that term to anyone causing a ruckus at an event and showing such disrespect toward someone speaking.

I apologize if anyone was offended in thinking the term was being used to describe her sexuality, but I do not apologize to those offended because they like to shout over top public speakers in an immature manner.

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Michelle Obama confronts protester, threatens to leave fundraiser. [View all] JaneyVee Jun 2013 OP

Sick of people treating the first couple like garbage. Pragdem Jun 2013 #1

Im sick of not having my civil rights n/t FreeState Jun 2013 #56

Michelle Obama didn't take away your civil rights. n/t ucrdem Jun 2013 #80

Her husband can sign an executive order today for federal employees FreeState Jun 2013 #82

Then Ms Sturtz should take it up with him. ucrdem Jun 2013 #91

Please do mention it FreeState Jun 2013 #94

I don't remember any first lady from the 60s, 70s or 80s ucrdem Jun 2013 #104

Several were - FreeState Jun 2013 #123

Stumping is a different issue. This was an ambush ucrdem Jun 2013 #140

A political fundraiser n/t FreeState Jun 2013 #148

At a private house. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #151

That they were invited to and paid for n/t FreeState Jun 2013 #153

I would have paid twice that ucrdem Jun 2013 #159

Ambush? Really? AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #265

Wait for what security? ucrdem Jun 2013 #334

And we certainly dont want people's rights to interfere with a hoity toity fund raiser. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #497

This message was self-deleted by its author nebenaube Jun 2013 #184

That's because things are getting desperate. 50% of the country is in poverty and rhett o rick Jun 2013 #163

This lady paid $500 to stab Michelle in the back ucrdem Jun 2013 #173

President Obama is a member in good standing of the 1% club. You hope he will be nice to you. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #177

President Obama has refrained from bombing Iran. ucrdem Jun 2013 #180

You must be kidding. He nominates people that he doesnt agree with??? He nominated her because rhett o rick Jun 2013 #183

Lets see, Pritzker is a Dem and Romney is a puke? ucrdem Jun 2013 #185

Both propose the same policies. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #258

And the only difference is what they have labeled themselves? If Romney changed parties rhett o rick Jun 2013 #324

So now she knows a little how gays and lesbians feel dbackjon Jun 2013 #357

That has nothing to do with this issue treestar Jun 2013 #284

Was this heckler the only person that paid $500 to attend? Sheepshank Jun 2013 #342

This heckler wasn't protesting Poverty or Penny Pritzker. n/t whathehell Jun 2013 #330

You think job discrimination is not about poverty? Read and learn, you look daft saying that Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #338

Don't be so quick to attack...If you "read and learn", from my post, for starters, you'll see whathehell Jun 2013 #414

What is that supposed to mean, that it was OK to heckle Hillary but not Michelle? Beacool Jun 2013 #378

Exactly. 1983law Jun 2013 #203

+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #351

You really think it's best for your rights to be at the whim of the President? jeff47 Jun 2013 #162

+1 treestar Jun 2013 #282

Are you telling the LGBT community to, "Stop fighting for nearly useless crap,"? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #331

The president does not have that power. jeff47 Jun 2013 #370

Obama's not going to sign anything right now cause the SCOTUS is currently deciding the DOMA case nt Tx4obama Jun 2013 #202

Don't bother trying logic davidpdx Jun 2013 #273

posts like yours make it easy for me to find who needs to get added to Full Ignore ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #231

Great T-shirts!! Beacool Jun 2013 #379

Her husband gets no credit even though he has done more for gay rights WI_DEM Jun 2013 #422

+1 Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #477

don't bother trying to explain that to people who are too dumb to understand ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #230

Or trying to discuss with people dbackjon Jun 2013 #361

Which ones? Do tell. demosincebirth Jun 2013 #102

Gays have all their civil rights? Really? n/t FreeState Jun 2013 #149

They can do anything they want that is legal. Even marry in many states. demosincebirth Jun 2013 #156

many states? quakerboy Jun 2013 #187

In NC it's not recognized as legal. Hell even my Civil Union was nullified and I'm straight. TalkingDog Jun 2013 #332

Hilarious. No marriage under Federal law, tax law, immigration law, Social Security law Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #341

Careful here, Call Me Wesley Jun 2013 #451

I'm beginning to think that it also might apply to some, here. demosincebirth Jun 2013 #482

Take it up with repukes. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #146

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #150

So who's speeches did Dr King interrupt? rbixby Jun 2013 #160

^THIS^ SunSeeker Jun 2013 #165

+ a million. graham4anything Jun 2013 #255

Do you think his marches interrupted anything? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #325

He didn't, but he also didn't go and interrupt JFK making speeches rbixby Jun 2013 #333

Gee, how are these individuals being compared to Martin? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #344

Aside from the disrespect here, the other issue is with SCOTUS rbixby Jun 2013 #352

Interesting, you are enraged that this heckler is not viewed as the same as MLK Sheepshank Jun 2013 #353

What the hell are you talking about? My point is that this woman is NOT counterpart Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #479

pardon me...I cleary missed the "didn't" Sheepshank Jun 2013 #500

You were very nasty while also dead wrong. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #506

I take it back Sheepshank Jun 2013 #507

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Jul 2015 #511

You really don't see the difference? Sheepshank Jun 2013 #356

Which claim is disingenuous? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #415

Did you notice that posts #146 and #150 were both rude yet only one got rhett o rick Jun 2013 #504

Sigh. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #505

+ 100 million skeewee08 Jun 2013 #340

well, i'm a "minority" hopemountain Jun 2013 #188

^^Exactly! rbixby Jun 2013 #355

This message was self-deleted by its author dbackjon Jun 2013 #360

welcome to Full Ignore ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #232

I don't have anyone on ignore, so I'm not sure about LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #279

You can set up so their posts leftynyc Jun 2013 #293

Interesting Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 #304

That person is fascinated by his ignore list, like a little boy who just discovered his penis QC Jun 2013 #319

I know Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 #320

I'M GOING TO ALERT ON YOU!!!!111! YOU SAID FUCK!1!!!!!1 QC Jun 2013 #323

DUzy! HangOnKids Jun 2013 #447

Obama has done more than any previous President treestar Jun 2013 #283

Amen!!!! There is a lot of work to be done still but he has made more inroads that all of mfcorey1 Jun 2013 #336

Wow. We have plenty of rights? But you have more and that's God's will? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #337

I am tired of the exaggeration treestar Jun 2013 #455

Since when do we need to rank issues? Fearless Sep 2013 #509

This post is one of the most bigoted responses to a post made by a minority DUer idwiyo Jun 2013 #359

Sadly, that post is entirely typical, both for that member QC Jun 2013 #381

Please accept my apology for this post. I am ashamed it's here and even more ashamed idwiyo Jun 2013 #400

There is no need for you to apologize. You are always on the side of the angels here. QC Jun 2013 #401

There is nothing bigoted about the fact treestar Jun 2013 #457

ONE right LGBTQ minority doesn't have? ONE right? Are you serious? How can one be so ignorant idwiyo Jun 2013 #470

I wasn't going to post in these threads but your post has moved me to respond. yardwork Jun 2013 #472

I really wish you didn't have to respond to this crap. Please accept my apologies. idwiyo Jun 2013 #474

I want to thank you for your wonderful responses! yardwork Jun 2013 #480

You and QC made me cry today. This shouldn't be happening, the bigotry I mean. idwiyo Jun 2013 #493

Care to elaborate on which rights you don't have? William769 Jun 2013 #473

You are a bigot by definition if you only care about other issues Fearless Jun 2013 #481

that is a flat out lie dsc Sep 2013 #510

How many rights do I need dbackjon Jun 2013 #362

Their panties are all in a bunch because we cannot criticize the Obamas adigal Jun 2013 #418

Yup! dbackjon Jun 2013 #420

Nobody is saying that people can't criticize Obama, Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #478

It's never enough and it will never be enough Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #373

So you are saying you are ok with Discrimination? dbackjon Jun 2013 #459

And you obviously have the right to be totally insulting theHandpuppet Sep 2013 #508

I doubt a blatant showing of disrespect is going to help that cause rbixby Jun 2013 #307

You mean the blatant disrespect Bigots are showing GLBT posters here on DU dbackjon Jun 2013 #367

I am sick of being treated as a second class citizen dbackjon Jun 2013 #354

Looks like Ms. Sturtz paid $500 to have her ass handed to her. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #2

I would have liked to see her take the mic and let Michelle Obama walk. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #11

Hell Yeah MattBaggins Jun 2013 #34

welcome to Full Ignore ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #233

Dear heart, your community has had the LGBT community on full ignore for years now Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #346

Might as well add me too while you are at it. n/t Jamastiene Jun 2013 #433

I'm sure all the others that also paid leftynyc Jun 2013 #297

exactly!!! Sheepshank Jun 2013 #347

Yeah...because that would have won the crowd over to her cause. gcomeau Jun 2013 #404

Everyone thinks that their issue is the only one on the plate. LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #3

exactly ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #5

As if each & every person is supposed to work on each & every issue. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #17

i think the point the other poster brought up is correct though. this event was in a private HiPointDem Jun 2013 #244

Civil rights are important and not a pet cause FreeState Jun 2013 #58

Mrs. Obama cannot sign an executive order of any kind jberryhill Jun 2013 #158

She was acting as a proxy for her husband by talking at a fundraiser muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #262

They're important enough to not be protected by presidential whim. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #168

Wasn't it the President who signed the order that federal benefits treestar Jun 2013 #285

treestar, federal benefits are denied to LGBT people Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #348

Quite the contrary. He could have and should have done that in 2008 but choose not to. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #503

Good for Mrs. Obama. The disrespect was way out of line. Laurian Jun 2013 #4

But Code Pink deserves our respect and admiration for heckling the President? brooklynite Jun 2013 #9

I don't believe I said anything about Code Pink. I was only commenting on the Laurian Jun 2013 #12

Not referring to you... brooklynite Jun 2013 #13

i don't care for code pink but at least he is an elected official JI7 Jun 2013 #14

What about Laura Bush? oberliner Jun 2013 #267

This is just as bad and wrong. N/t xoom Jun 2013 #322

you have a definite point there CatWoman Jun 2013 #33

I recall the time they did something to Condi treestar Jun 2013 #458

And if this had been an anti war protester at a Bush speech MattBaggins Jun 2013 #35

Michelle is NOT an elected official. nt DevonRex Jun 2013 #55

Michelle is a wonderful woman MattBaggins Jun 2013 #86

She's a strong woman who handled it her way - not like a Stepford wife. DevonRex Jun 2013 #121

Please keep your words in your mouth instead of trying to stuff them inside of mine MattBaggins Jun 2013 #124

Ok. Some of the rhetoric has upset me. I apologize. DevonRex Jun 2013 #142

No problem MattBaggins Jun 2013 #145

FLOTUS is NOT a legitimate target or a go-between flunky. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #218

She was speaking at a political fundraiser muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #263

What about this? oberliner Jun 2013 #266

Neither was Laura Bush oberliner Jun 2013 #269

Excellent post. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #363

What if this would have been a gun nut? Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #197

If wishes were horses MattBaggins Jun 2013 #199

What if you suddenly turned into a cheese sandwich? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #264

I just want to point out that if I turned into a cheese sandwich I'd be delicious AngryAmish Jun 2013 #326

This was a paid fundraiser at someone's home. Beacool Jun 2013 #406

What if frogs had wings? Jamastiene Jun 2013 #435

+1 n/t RKP5637 Jun 2013 #40

"She got right in my face." BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #6

What did she expect? CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #219

Turnabout is fair. riqster Jun 2013 #289

It is fair n/t BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #298

Michelle Obama is definitely NOT somebody I would choose to f*ck with Number23 Jun 2013 #7

That must be against the rules of heckling or something ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #16

Snork. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #213

Welcome to Full Ignore ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #234

Right. You expected to show your ass and get away with it because she'd NEVER respond. nolabear Jun 2013 #22

+1 Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #369

THIS krawhitham Jun 2013 #64

Bravo, Michelle! Whisp Jun 2013 #99

I was thinking the same thing. onpatrol98 Jun 2013 #399

Meanwhile, it's a private fundraiser, they'll probably be a Q & A afterward where she could address JaneyVee Jun 2013 #8

Boo fucking hoo. The most influential woman in the world threatened to walk out... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #10

Let's review what was accomplished... brooklynite Jun 2013 #15

During Bush One's reign of terror, 4 of my fellow activists purchased Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #36

How'd the Election turn out? brooklynite Jun 2013 #41

Senior Bush lost. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #43

Actually, no he didn't brooklynite Jun 2013 #47

SENIOR. BUSH ONE. THE DAD. THE OLD ONE. LOST TO CLINTON. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #53

Sorry, didn't catch that... brooklynite Jun 2013 #62

You will always opine, even directly after confusing Bushes and pontificating about your Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #376

slow... keep up. b/t nebenaube Jun 2013 #190

Exactly treestar Jun 2013 #286

Bravo! Earth_First Jun 2013 #18

That's what woodchucks do! I'm mad as pancakes! I'm going to create a Whitehouse.gov petition... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #46

Unlike Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #294

The audience didn't come to listen to Ms. Sturtz bleat away and interrupt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #19

exactly MFM008 Jun 2013 #27

Exactly. A private Dem fundraiser that she had been invited too, no less. Number23 Jun 2013 #181

Michelle Obama was not elected to anything; has no political power REP Jun 2013 #25

Yes, I know. That is why I used the word "influential" and not the word "power." Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #39

I don't smoke out of a hat ... REP Jun 2013 #105

I assume you felt the same way 1983law Jun 2013 #210

Was she heckled? Common Sense Party Jun 2013 #214

I remember so. 1983law Jun 2013 #236

When? What happened? Common Sense Party Jun 2013 #311

There's this. 1983law Jun 2013 #318

So you are implying that we should set today's standards from assisnine past actions? Sheepshank Jun 2013 #368

"Was Ms Obama being a lady?" What the HELL do you mean by THAT? As opposed to a WHAT??? DevonRex Jun 2013 #28

Many DUers were praising her husband for being such a gentleman for addressing Medea... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #42

He was being The President - Obama style. nt DevonRex Jun 2013 #52

Was she too uppity? Did she not know her place well enough? REP Jun 2013 #115

No. The protester wasn't uppity enough. The protester should have accepted Michelle's Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #135

Yes, Mrs. Obama was being a lady. blue neen Jun 2013 #29

We had a thread about this. "Ladylike" and "being a lady" are unacceptable terms here. Common Sense Party Jun 2013 #215

^^good catch^^ Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #308

This is how it will seem to many people MattBaggins Jun 2013 #37

You mean the lazy RW-enabling MSM? They'll be all over it CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #238

so, how exactly does one handle it hopemountain Jun 2013 #486

Bill Clinton was the best at it. MattBaggins Jun 2013 #488

how so? hopemountain Jun 2013 #490

No MattBaggins Jun 2013 #491

How is she the most influential woman in the world? BainsBane Jun 2013 #54

Married to the president. I am aware of women heads of state. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #72

Michelle doesn't control an empire BainsBane Jun 2013 #78

She has the ear of the emperer. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #107

Emperor? leftynyc Jun 2013 #295

Because she is the wife and chattel of her husband jberryhill Jun 2013 #164

That's it exactly. "Chattel". Never thought I'd see it on a site filled with Feminists. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #403

Pomp and circumstance is not real power. Jennicut Jun 2013 #93

Pomp and circumstance is afforded to those who can curry favor. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #97

The Presidency does not "control an empire." treestar Jun 2013 #288

Angela Merkel controls the economic fate of Europe. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #343

They never heard of Angela Merkel, I guess. Jennicut Jun 2013 #85

Yes, that's a far better choice. BainsBane Jun 2013 #88

That's twice today davidpdx Jun 2013 #275

You know I did a search BainsBane Jun 2013 #471

Could be davidpdx Jun 2013 #498

She acted like a bully and should be ashamed FreeState Jun 2013 #61

This. +1 Apophis Jun 2013 #95

Was she being a lady? one_voice Jun 2013 #103

Apparently a lady doesn't stand up for herself. DevonRex Jun 2013 #189

and she must be an "elegant" one at that! grrrrr. n.t hopemountain Jun 2013 #489

"Was Ms Obama being a lady?" Is that caucasian speak for uppity? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #130

Was it caucasian talk for calling Obama a gentleman when dealing with Medea Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #137

His destruction of Medea was "Presidential". What elected office does Michelle hold? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #147

She was speaking at a fundraiser for her "Presidential" and gentlemanly Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #192

Yes, he is a gentleman. Whisp Jun 2013 #198

So no "elective" office? You sound as ridiculous as ever. I asked you a.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #220

What about Laura Bush? oberliner Jun 2013 #268

Excuse me, but was anyone arrested at the Michelle Obama event? You'll note that I did not.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #389

My point is that Laura wasn't an elected official either oberliner Jun 2013 #421

if you don't know the history of the inequality between men and women Whisp Jun 2013 #350

what?! them's fightin' woids.. PUT UP YER DUKES11!11!1 dionysus Jun 2013 #377

Dion, where've you been? I haven't seen you in forever. Great to see you. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #387

A bit harsh 1983law Jun 2013 #212

"Was Ms Obama being a lady?" CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #221

"because a commoner challenged her" Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #249

Ms Obama doesn't need to be a 'lady' and put up geek tragedy Jun 2013 #300

Clearly, the couple handles hecklers differently. President Obama is calm (to a fault IMO) apples and oranges Jun 2013 #374

Tomorrow on FOX: Michelle rude to lesbian proud2BlibKansan Jun 2013 #20

Ha! So true! n/t Inkfreak Jun 2013 #30

Reminds me of Ted Turner harrassing Madeline Albright when she was SoS. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #21

Apparently, Michelle Obama is not as patient as her husband. Brigid Jun 2013 #23

Good for her!!! That's exactly how you should deal with a heckler! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #24

Shouting and interrupting are not the way auntsue Jun 2013 #26

that was eye opening. nt boilerbabe Jun 2013 #31

"Yet another hero confronts the tyrants!!!!" alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #32

We have certainly entered The Twilight Zone Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #310

sounds like Michelle has a huge chip on her shoulder quinnox Jun 2013 #38

No, she's a mother shawn703 Jun 2013 #44

So people wanting equality dbackjon Jun 2013 #408

Nope shawn703 Jun 2013 #412

Do you like it when people interrupt you? Brigid Jun 2013 #45

Figures BainsBane Jun 2013 #48

yep, not a worshipper of the First Lady. I know, I don't know my place (like that protester) quinnox Jun 2013 #60

Taking shots at the First Lady is just plain low BainsBane Jun 2013 #67

you have a strange definition of taking shots then quinnox Jun 2013 #75

A president is very different from a First Lady BainsBane Jun 2013 #98

I take it you would treat any of us the same? treestar Jun 2013 #287

Hecklers are interesting. Jennicut Jun 2013 #57

Not having your civil rights isnt something worthy of heckling about FreeState Jun 2013 #66

Civil rights are not really going to change through a First Lady. Jennicut Jun 2013 #129

They are trying to get Obama FreeState Jun 2013 #133

And wives are merely proxies for their husbands jberryhill Jun 2013 #169

Very rudely heckling FLOTUS at a private function is assholish BuddhaGirl Jun 2013 #143

+1 FreeState Jun 2013 #63

Funny. Right wingers say the same bullshit about her having a "chip on her shoulder" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #77

well, I've always known you were a BOG-er type, where whiffs of any criticism of the Obamas are quinnox Jun 2013 #87

You even went after Sasha Obama Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #182

oh bullshit, but go ahead and keep making shit up quinnox Jun 2013 #247

You nailed the progression down Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #313

+1 about winger memes uponit7771 Jun 2013 #96

Yep and yep. Number23 Jun 2013 #179

Spot f%@king on. great white snark Jun 2013 #383

You write for Fox don't you? one_voice Jun 2013 #106

nope, just favor the protester over those in power quinnox Jun 2013 #114

Where did I say that the protester had a chip on their shoulder? one_voice Jun 2013 #138

fine, since you answered, I will answer quinnox Jun 2013 #144

Welcome to Full Ignore - good luck advocating from there ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #235

what the fuck ever quinnox Jun 2013 #242

So why wouldn't it be OK if the protestor was a right winger treestar Jun 2013 #290

So you believe in silencing all voices, regardless of the content or cause? LonePirate Jun 2013 #299

That's this person's only chance? treestar Jun 2013 #462

How many of those opportunities involve speaking directly to the First Lady? LonePirate Jun 2013 #463

who the fuck cares that you 'never liked her in the first place.' Whisp Jun 2013 #112

wow, so does it shock you that not everyone is in love with Michelle? quinnox Jun 2013 #125

quinnox finds Sasha Obama haughty alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #126

I know, I should have to go to Gitmo for not being properly adoring of Michelle quinnox Jun 2013 #131

Whatever, superhero alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #134

you left out satanist, neo-nazi, serial killer, and quinnox Jun 2013 #139

What are you alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #141

Hey, how've you been! jberryhill Jun 2013 #170

OMG treestar Jun 2013 #291

Oh, it's the "uppity" meme again. From you. DevonRex Jun 2013 #191

yup, expected coming from that one JI7 Jun 2013 #211

I AM surprised it came from so many other people, though. DevonRex Jun 2013 #216

This presidency has shone a light in many corners. -nt CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #225

Yeah. It has. Obama might as well DevonRex Jun 2013 #229

Chip fits nicely with "articulate". Pirate Smile Jun 2013 #195

"Never liked her in the first place" CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #222

yea, whatever quinnox Jun 2013 #245

Sure, racist misogynist assholes never liked her. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #303

Just call her an uppity and surly Negress while geek tragedy Jun 2013 #301

your bitter tears are nectar to my soul.... dionysus Jun 2013 #358

No. 'Do you know who I am' was Resse Witherspoon. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #385

Have to treat people who act like children like they are children shawn703 Jun 2013 #49

Is that why the straight community discriminates against gay people so brutally? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #388

What are you going on about now? shawn703 Jun 2013 #392

Not as classy as her husband! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #50

Welcome to Full Ignore - good luck advocating from there ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #237

Put me on full ignore too please... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #260

LOL Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #314

LOL, think I give a crap? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #475

Gotta love this CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #240

Nothing wrong with me thinking she handled it wrong. And Obama handles it right. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #476

The First Lady is a ceremonial position BainsBane Jun 2013 #51

She also takes her share of racist crap from the media. ucrdem Jun 2013 #68

If she doesn't want the heat from politics then she needs to stop making political speeches TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #366

A fundraiser at a private home BainsBane Jun 2013 #425

Very strange that someone would heckle the First Lady. Even stranger that people would support that BenzoDia Jun 2013 #59

Even stranger that peope dont support gay rights on a democratic board FreeState Jun 2013 #69

Heckling the first lady is a poor way of supporting gay rights. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #71

So you disagree with how the civil rights in the past were pushed FreeState Jun 2013 #74

Terrible straw man argument. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #100

i can't think of any similar instance, actually. where the first lady was heckled at a private HiPointDem Jun 2013 #272

You might as well heckle Martha Stewart or Emeril Lagasse over that BainsBane Jun 2013 #73

You know she wasnt talking about a bill right? FreeState Jun 2013 #79

Okay, Michelle doesn't issue executive orders BainsBane Jun 2013 #81

Her Husband does n/t FreeState Jun 2013 #83

If the point is to persuade her to talk to her husband BainsBane Jun 2013 #84

So when this was done in the 60s it was great FreeState Jun 2013 #92

I don't recall any civil rights activist heckling First Ladies BainsBane Jun 2013 #101

Obama's not going to sign anything right now cause the SCOTUS is currently deciding the DOMA case nt Tx4obama Jun 2013 #207

Even stranger that people HERE would support that. ucrdem Jun 2013 #76

why not? we supported anyone who heckled bush. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #110

Heckling George is fine. Heckling Laura is not. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #116

did you make this rule up today? because i am pretty sure deriding laura and the twins La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #119

If people did that, they're being petty. And it's not any less so than hecking the current First La BenzoDia Jun 2013 #128

Yes and no MattBaggins Jun 2013 #154

Michelle Obama is not Bush. ucrdem Jun 2013 #117

yes it does. its not the heckling you are against. its the heckling of a democrat La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #122

Glad I cleared that up for you then. Next lesson: Michelle is not Barack. n/t ucrdem Jun 2013 #132

Bush was POTUS, signer/vetoer of legislation. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #224

i wonder how many find heckling outrageous when republicans are in office La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #108

Not a D vs R thing. It'd be just as tacky to heckle Laura Bush or Nancy Reagan. nt BenzoDia Jun 2013 #113

please, people here were ecstatic when someone threw the shoe at bush La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #118

If people here cheered someone throwing a shoe at Laura, I'd say they're being tacky. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #120

So...you can't differentiate between Laura Bush and George Bush? (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #174

I would not in a million years have heckled President Nixon or Eisenhower. graham4anything Jun 2013 #257

+1 Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #485

Woman arrested after interrupting Laura Bush speech oberliner Jun 2013 #270

Beating up on a former President's wife doesn't make it okay to do it to a current President's wife. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #495

I wish politicians had the freedom to handle these classless assholes like comedians do. Pragdem Jun 2013 #65

They do have that freedom MattBaggins Jun 2013 #157

aww her speech was interrupted. such a travesty. that woman can get fired in 37 states for being gay La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #70

And Obama can do exactly nothing to stop that. jeff47 Jun 2013 #175

But an executive order would protect people for the next 3 and a half years at minimum muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #271

No, it wouldn't. jeff47 Jun 2013 #364

No, it is about federal contractors muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #384

It's useless unless you can show significant numbers being victims of discrimination. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #393

Gosh, this took all of one google search: muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #395

Gosh, 0 of those would be protected by an Executive Order. jeff47 Jun 2013 #397

Kathleen works at a university muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #402

No, the EO would cover people working for the executive branch. jeff47 Jun 2013 #419

No, federal contractors. From the WP article: muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #427

Not what I'm arguing. But thanks for continuing the battles against straw men. jeff47 Jun 2013 #444

You are requesting a strawman muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #445

For it to do any good, you'd have to show that some discrimination has happened. jeff47 Jun 2013 #446

I have given an example - the university muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #454

Welcome to Full Ignore - Good luck advocating from there!!!! ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #239

Your post is pretty ridiculous. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #316

ohh some unknown person on the internet is ignoring me La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #321

^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #315

Not much of a strategy there. CBHagman Jun 2013 #89

Because this straggly of heckling anyone close to the president FreeState Jun 2013 #127

I would think more because the supreme court is working on a DOMA ruling bhikkhu Jun 2013 #178

"how stupid that would be"? Why would it be 'stupid' at all? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #274

No, the precedent would be the president putting himself above the supreme court bhikkhu Jun 2013 #349

DOMA is about marriage; this is about employment discrimination muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #382

The supreme court decision could be broad, or it could be narrow bhikkhu Jun 2013 #390

Are you claiming there are laws that state "discrimination by sexuality must be allowed"? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #394

Hmm, private fundraiser versus a protest to sign an antidiscrimination order. rug Jun 2013 #90

I tell you what, anybody who harasses MY spouse to get ME to do something DevonRex Jun 2013 #204

What gets me about this is why people think POTUS needs influencing CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #243

How nice that you are allowed a spouse! That must be great. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #396

Great. Harass all of us who have been fighting with you FOR your rights. DevonRex Jun 2013 #413

Does your spouse have the authority to change public policy? rug Jun 2013 #443

Neither does Michelle. DevonRex Jun 2013 #448

Her spouse does. rug Jun 2013 #449

I see that bigoted language is okay DevonRex Jun 2013 #450

Do you? Pray tell, show it to me. rug Jun 2013 #456

I raised valid points about how Michelle is being talked about HERE. You minimized it DevonRex Jun 2013 #460

some think that their issue is the most important one in the world. demosincebirth Jun 2013 #109

LOL. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #111

+10000000 FreeState Jun 2013 #136

You're not making sense nt. demosincebirth Jun 2013 #155

She is making perfect sense to those that value equality dbackjon Jun 2013 #461

Oh my, another " holier than thou" group member. demosincebirth Jun 2013 #484

I wish her Husband would have done the same thing to that "You Lie" guy. BlueStreak Jun 2013 #152

Absolutely perfect. Brigid Jun 2013 #166

I wish she'd direct that anger at Republicans. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #161

+1 ucrdem Jun 2013 #167

People get assassinated at events like this jberryhill Jun 2013 #171

+1000 CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #223

Or protest Republican candidates at the Reagan Library? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #276

Why wasn't the heckler supporting Bradley Manning? jberryhill Jun 2013 #172

She's not a politician -- she didn't run for office -- she VOLUNTEERS her time and efforts MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #176

Yes. Thank you for pointing that out. ucrdem Jun 2013 #186

MotherP, DevonRex Jun 2013 #193

she should stay away from "political" fundraisers then if she is above it all. nt boilerbabe Jun 2013 #201

Yet another "uppity" reference. DevonRex Jun 2013 #206

That's a truly shitty post from you muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #277

Oh no. No way. Michelle stuck up for herself. Period. In this thread she has been called DevonRex Jun 2013 #416

Then you're calling the wrong DUer a racist, aren't you? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #424

No I am not making DevonRex Jun 2013 #428

Again, you need to read the posts before you make stupid, offensive remarks about them muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #430

In a VERY close setting in a private home. No cameras. No DevonRex Jun 2013 #437

It was a fundraising speech for the DNC; not about 'hungry children' muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #440

I say that calling her unladylike, classless, graceless, above it all, are buzzwords. nt DevonRex Jun 2013 #441

This was a stupid fucking move by the protester & the wrong target. Pirate Smile Jun 2013 #194

I am not a violent person.. HipChick Jun 2013 #196

Yep skeewee08 Jun 2013 #335

Obama is going to have a harder time signing it now because it will look like he caved to a heckler. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #200

When has caving ever bothered him? n/t leftstreet Jun 2013 #205

+1000 forestpath Jun 2013 #228

violates terms of service - alerting ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #248

Be careful... Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #453

I think this violates DU rules. I'm alerting this to the mods. ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #246

I came to a fantastic decision after seeing this latest BS from you. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #317

Where were you when Kucinich was running? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #339

Obama's not going to sign anything right now cause the SCOTUS is currently deciding the DOMA case nt Tx4obama Jun 2013 #208

DOMA is about marriage, not employment discrimination by federal contractors muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #278

We know how that will go.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #345

Elvis, Justin, etc. What I see here, is more of the same. TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #209

Is there video of this altercation? Common Sense Party Jun 2013 #217

At least she didn't get a pump thrown at her rightsideout Jun 2013 #226

I don't have a problem with the protest. When it comes to forestpath Jun 2013 #227

"but has frequently chickened out in the most egregious ways when it comes to upholding them." Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #251

Habeas corpus. Due process. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #292

This message was self-deleted by its author Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #439

You MUST be joking. Obama's DOJ defended DOMA for years. forestpath Jun 2013 #494

You do understand Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #496

hadn't realized this was in a private home. a little different situation than a public one. pretty HiPointDem Jun 2013 #241

What if there was no Q&A or schmooze time? LonePirate Jun 2013 #305

what if she is a space alien? and other hypotheticals. you pay for a private session because HiPointDem Jun 2013 #429

There is never a guarantee of access LonePirate Jun 2013 #432

yeah, i'm sure sturtz was in danger of being murdered by the first lady. there's no comparison HiPointDem Jun 2013 #436

Michelle Obama was a guest and the protester had her say.. Cha Jun 2013 #250

here's what i think he said: ucrdem Jun 2013 #252

Lol, Cha Jun 2013 #253

How long do you realistically think it will take for ENDA to pass? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #280

But it would suck later.... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #328

I can't tell someone to "sit down and shut up" when it's their rights concerned muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #380

They can in an off-year election - particularly given their base Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #438

37 Senators and 73% of the public support it; it is not a 'bomb' muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #442

IF it's not legislation and only an EO then the next GOP President could over turn it w/ another EO. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #466

Passing an EO does not preclude passing a law muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #469

+1000 n/t Tx4obama Jun 2013 #465

Michelle Obama 46 for President 2024, 2028 after Hillary 45 graham4anything Jun 2013 #254

GOOD for Michelle! nt Raine Jun 2013 #256

Yahoo reports this, and their usual neanderthal regressives grunt in unison, bones in hand: HughBeaumont Jun 2013 #259

"Michelle Stares down Protester".. rofl Cha Jun 2013 #261

I wonder what this "liberalism religion" is? HughBeaumont Jun 2013 #312

Both that group and Code Pink have been rude to to the Obamas davidpdx Jun 2013 #281

So you think rights are earned by quiet subservience? Constitution says otherwise. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #398

The constitution says nothing about screaming at people like children davidpdx Jun 2013 #499

I was kicked out of another thread about this and want to clear something up... Pragdem Jun 2013 #296

A word to the wise, Pragdem... CTyankee Jun 2013 #306

I will heed that advice. Pragdem Jun 2013 #327

Yep, ya never know around here... CTyankee Jun 2013 #329

no you won't, too late quinnox Jun 2013 #464

Well I see the bus has gotten much bigger. William769 Jun 2013 #302

I applaud the courage of anyone using civil disobedience in support of civil rights. LonePirate Jun 2013 #309

This message was self-deleted by its author JaneyVee Jun 2013 #365

Let's just keep discriminating against millions of people and pretending that we don't is Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #391

You can fight discrimination in much more effective ways than childish rudeness. phleshdef Jun 2013 #405

Agreed dbackjon Jun 2013 #410

FLOTUS was a boss last night. politicasista Jun 2013 #371

Well, I am getting tired of being a second class citizen dbackjon Jun 2013 #411

I am tired of seeing people attacking potential allies, Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #487

I don't get heckling KingFlorez Jun 2013 #372

Bottom line: This was fucking rude. Blue_Roses Jun 2013 #375

I don't really have a problem with the protester or Obamas actions. NCTraveler Jun 2013 #386

See Cha's excerpt in Comment #250 regarding what WH said just hours before Michelle's speech. n/t Tx4obama Jun 2013 #468

Uh, "in your face" is how it's done. Don't be shocked... Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #407

Uh, "in your face" is not how it's done by all, and that style frequently generates nasty responses. whathehell Jun 2013 #417

Sounds like you want to get in on something. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #426

I like Michelle Obama too and follow her example too. whathehell Jun 2013 #452

I think we are in basic agreement. Public communication can be touchy. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #467

Yes, I think so, too. whathehell Jun 2013 #483

A question to those who supports Sturtz's heckling of Mrs. Obama Bodhi BloodWave Jun 2013 #409

Just listened to the audio apples and oranges Jun 2013 #423

She should have taken the mic if she had something to say. bravenak Jun 2013 #431

That was a bit petulant on the First Lady's part Prism Jun 2013 #434

you know i am not at all upset with her. she did what most people do when they get unnerved La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #492

Yeah, her reaction doesn't phase me. Prism Jun 2013 #501

yeah esp because we seem to lack values when it comes to venerating our leaders La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #502

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