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magical thyme

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106. my understanding is that arabians are all about bloodlines
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 08:24 AM
Jun 2013

according to a breeder/acquaintance from a few decades ago. There are certain bloodlines that are golden. Her horses were sweethearts and wouldn't rear, buck or bolt for anything (but hers lacked good conformation and athletic ability). Back in the 80s when the arab market crashed and truckloads were being shipped to slaughter, the top arab trainers in the country, Bill & Susan Bohls, bought up some of their client's herds and started their own breeding operation. (But not the herd my old gelding came from, lol.) The arabs they bought were golden -- beautiful conformation and gaits, but also beautiful minds and hearts, so safe for their amateur clients. As their trainers, they knew which bloodlines to buy. The rest are tough, tough, tough. You cannot "make" them do anything; you must win their hearts to get a willing partner or you will have pony mind in a very powerful body. My old gelding was essentially sweet, but deep down needed to be in control. He had to get me off every way possible, but just once. It seems he wanted to know my limits in order to "control" me. It took him years to figure out how to buck me off, but once he had he never did it again. But he would amuse himself by just getting me unseated a bit with little bucks before settling in to work. He also wouldn't hold still for mounting, until one day he finally managed to scoot out from under me and leave me eating dirt at the mounting block. And then he never did that again, and instead stood stock still to take care of me. He just needed to once, and then he took care of me. He also flipped on me once -- I jumped free and he landed right next to me. But then he rolled over me and used my back to hoist himself to his feet. I spent about 15-20 minutes as a quadriplegic and literally was just a head in the dirt before feeling and movement returned. I had a fractured sternum and deep tissue bruises that took 2-3 months to surface. I also sprained my knee badly, I think when I was jumping free. I consider that the most athletic feat I accomplished in my life. If you jump too soon you can pull them on top of you. Too late, and you can't get out from under them. But the momentum when they start to fall is enormous. There is no way to train for when to jump. I just remember my voice in my head saying, "No...No...No...NOW!" while my out loud voice was cussing up a storm. It all happens in slow motion...

The mare doesn't have his sense of humor or caretaking mind, and although she looks sweet and will cozy up and beg for treats from strangers like a dog, butter doesn't melt in her mouth. But once she accepts things, she is quite obedient and willing. She just needs to accept being ridden, but getting there could be lethal. For example, learning to accept the girth, at first she was very afraid. I proceeded very slowly and she lost her fear and seemed ok. Next season, I start very slowly again, but she had decided "no girth" and went crazy. Broke away from me inside the barn and tried to climb over the dutch door into the stall with the gelding. All you can do is stand back and let them have their tantrum. Once they accept, it's never a big deal again. This season, she tried to puff herself up but I don't give her anything to resist. I just leave the girth a little loose while putting on other tack until she's relaxed, and then gently tighten it. Lunge a little, tighten it the rest of the way. After a few days of that, and I can take it straight to riding tightness, especially once the weather is warm enough. They are very, very sensitive and intelligent, so it's also a matter of respecting that and allowing them the space to think things over and decide it is ok and safe. With lunging, she broke 2 sets of side reins that were long enough to start 16+ hand horses in (she's 14.3 with a short side of medium length neck). So I switched to vienna reins, which I prefer anyway. She tried to fight those, but they don't give her anything to fight, so she accepted them, but not quite. This spring, she had over the winter figured out being "on the bit." Soft, soft, soft and beautiful. And a few minutes later, rebelled without warning and hit me in the face. So I got off and put her on the lunge. She totally regressed and re-visited her fight with the vienna reins until she realized she can't "win" a fight or break them when there is nothing to fight. That will probably never happen again; she has totally accepted them and I can see it in her carriage. Even her winter blanket, on the 2nd winter I took a double-barreled kick and ended up with a cracked rib. Now, I can just toss it on without a thought (although I always am careful; she schooled me well).

Part of it is also climate. It is winter to them until it's at least 80 or 90 degrees. At 100 degrees they become totally different horses. We're melted into a puddle and they're finally comfortable, easy and willing. And diet matters. If you look at pictures of them in their home environment, they are bags of bones. They have been bred for centuries to run in desert heat on very, very little low grade fuel, and we overstuff them with premium and put them in a cold climate. I found with the gelding, and I'm seeing with the mare, that when they are overfed they become aggressive. Carbs are like angel dust or something in their system. I'm thinking I may need to move to the desert to keep her warm enough to relax. My 2 arab breeder friends both send horses out to two different top trainers and when their horses came back, announced that the trainers "starve them into submission." It's not starvation. It's an appropriate diet for the breed. They aren't meant to look like quarter horses.

As to Bill Gates, I have a personal hatred for him after he ruined the company where my career was at (Digital Equipment Corp). He destroys everything he touches. He is a lousy engineer and all about marketing and legal loopholes. Microsoft software sucks; there were much better products out there all along. And now his kind destroyed dressage, although I have to say the destruction started really back in the late 70s to early 80s. I saw an interview with him and Melinda Gates on PBS the other night. Frankly she looks like hell at this point; with all their money, her face has misery etched into it. The bad news is he read a book on fertilizer. The worse news is now he thinks he's an expert on agriculture so is planning to save the food supply. I see soyent green in our future. He also is designing a better nuclear reactor. Make that fluorescent soyent green because we'll all be glowing in the dark...

Back in the 80s, the Germans were very clever to change the judging rules to favor their horses. They saw the "adult amateur" market coming, and turned it into a market for oversized horses with fancy gaits, and money took over the dressage world. For a long time, they sold to us for top dollar horses that would have gone to slaughter. I remember Fritz Stecken pounding a table asking why Americans were importing the German horses. He considered thoroughbreds to be the best horses in the world. He said we had the best horses in the world right here. Instead, Americans being Americans, we tried to buy something that actually takes generations to grow.

I was there when Kathy Connelly was being helped financially by her father and dating Tad Coffin. At that point, she always smiled very sweetly while she was grinding you under her heels. Unlike Robert Dover who just wiped you off his boot and pretended he didn't notice you, as if you were a turd he accidentally stepped in. Luckily I had moved on when Tad traded Kathy in for a "caretaker" type. Word was she did not handle it well. 'Nuff said

Right now I have 2 part time jobs. In 3 years, I can start Social Security and lose one of the part time jobs. If I can also being doing some training up and selling, that could work...it would be nice ending. Postpone gratification until I can do it more on my own terms.

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I think better advice is follow your passions. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #1
How about "Indulge Your Curiorsity"? KittyWampus Jun 2013 #13
People should do that all the time. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #15
I like the advice I saw recently here on DU (from a different commencement speaker). Laelth Jun 2013 #54
More like: Newest Reality Jun 2013 #2
+1 Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #5
+1 90-percent Jun 2013 #17
Ouch rastaone Jun 2013 #20
Agreed. Very sad because, for many, it will be very true. Laelth Jun 2013 #55
Dude...That hits a little TOO close to home Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #72
Oh, sorry. Newest Reality Jun 2013 #74
Fuck this world without my dreams. hunter Jun 2013 #3
I agree with hunter! Awknid Jun 2013 #4
Holding Your Head Up RobinA Jun 2013 #107
Funny thing about the word robot... Xipe Totec Jun 2013 #7
+1,000 n/t malaise Jun 2013 #8
Do you want to Make Money.... bvar22 Jun 2013 #12
It's not necessarily a zero-sum thing anyway. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #16
I want to eat. DeadLetterOffice Jun 2013 #18
Yes, this. lolly Jun 2013 #22
Well said! nt raccoon Jun 2013 #65
"School was a Place to Learn about The World, Zorra Jun 2013 #39
today's kids can forget about creativity, fun, passion, and dreams. They don't teach those things liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #42
Hear, hear. We are witnessing what a sad and hopeless place the world is when Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #89
I think this is what Prof. Wade is talking about... blahblah98 Jun 2013 #27
+1. working class kids are fed all sorts of unrealistic crap & thrown into the workplace. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #36
+1 DeadLetterOffice Jun 2013 #50
You and your son are likely to get another lesson in reality, I'm sorry to say. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #90
Love the romantics blahblah98 Jun 2013 #92
You're right, it doesn't eliminate capitalism (if only it were that simple), but we do it because Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #95
The Romantics RobinA Jun 2013 #108
Maybe your son likes history... a la izquierda Jun 2013 #97
Hunter, You CAN Follow Your Dreams Demeter Jun 2013 #29
Wherever I end up, I'm always living my dream. hunter Jun 2013 #37
I don't have a patron or an inheritance, klook Jun 2013 #71
Fuckin' a right, hunter! I followed my dreams and my life is, and has been, total ass kickin' Zorra Jun 2013 #35
Absofuckinglutely, hunter! Tom Ripley Jun 2013 #47
Yes, that sounded like she was just telling the truth treestar Jun 2013 #61
+ Infinity Octafish Jun 2013 #69
It does indeed follow that many people will put their dreams LanternWaste Jun 2013 #78
My current dream is to build an economic system... hunter Jun 2013 #79
but you are a slave. :( nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #94
Our economic masters ignore my good advice, so it's only fair I ignore them. hunter Jun 2013 #96
Jimmy Cliff- ruffburr Jun 2013 #103
A Dream? How about a Plan? sibelian Jun 2013 #109
I have some pretty weird dreams. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #6
Do tell. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #77
How sad.. Texasgal Jun 2013 #9
Another academic advocating for post secondary education's devolution into overpriced Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #10
How many people really *want* to be "banksters", anyway? YoungDemCA Jun 2013 #84
I Guess She Never Dreamed About Being A Professor.......... thelordofhell Jun 2013 #11
Muddle through and make the best of things daleo Jun 2013 #14
I agree with the professor Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #19
Absurd. nolabear Jun 2013 #21
My father always told us rastaone Jun 2013 #23
It is true that it is very rare to actually survive Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #24
well obviously she is right - at least for the overwhelming majority of people Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #25
Dontcha have to find yerself first? L0oniX Jun 2013 #26
Our sick society only values making money. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2013 #28
Colleges should stop saying "Follow your dreams" when they enter college FarCenter Jun 2013 #30
Look, you're American, so scale it back it, alright? Marr Jun 2013 #31
"Choose to be happy." AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #32
It's OK to follow your dreams if you do it with eyes wide open. MadrasT Jun 2013 #33
My dad is an artist. For some years he made his living teaching art. hunter Jun 2013 #34
most people have lost something th HiPointDem Jun 2013 #38
Somebody may have a passion for information science treestar Jun 2013 #62
I say pursue your interests... At this point, picking the "right" major is pretty much a crapshoot. reformist2 Jun 2013 #40
Thought this was the extension of the "You aren't special" guy... Pelican Jun 2013 #41
I keep thinking of this video... backscatter712 Jun 2013 #80
I like his speech better... Libertas1776 Jun 2013 #82
She's right. And you dreams should have nothing to do with which degree you pursue. nt Pragdem Jun 2013 #43
Is this a public school or private? liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #44
It's the private college in Los Angeles where Barack Obama went from '79 to '81! n/t alp227 Jun 2013 #99
This whole society undergroundpanther Jun 2013 #45
That has been my experience as well. This culture rewards sociopaths. nt DLevine Jun 2013 #56
I always wonder what that would have been like... bhikkhu Jun 2013 #46
why does it have to be one or the other ? JI7 Jun 2013 #48
Bumper sticker truisms are always lousy advice. Quantess Jun 2013 #49
You should start a thread with this! nt raccoon Jun 2013 #67
Meh! Are_grits_groceries Jun 2013 #51
the sad thing for me is that had I followed my dreams magical thyme Jun 2013 #52
Oh magical thyme (((hugs))). You know my husband was one of the "lucky few" riderinthestorm Jun 2013 #93
it's ok, Rider, I re-read my post at work yesterday magical thyme Jun 2013 #100
Good luck! I know many people make extra bucks with prospects that fall through the cracks riderinthestorm Jun 2013 #105
my understanding is that arabians are all about bloodlines magical thyme Jun 2013 #106
That happened to me as well. sibelian Jun 2013 #110
I agree. That's cruel and unrealistic advice for all but the very rich. k&r n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #53
Next she'll be telling us there are no silver linings in dark clouds. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #57
My current theory: Have two jobs. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #58
That is basically my situation right now. The other thing I would advise is... stevenleser Jun 2013 #102
It is cruel and stupid. Safetykitten Jun 2013 #59
After reading the comments treestar Jun 2013 #60
Horatio Alger: Bullshit then and bullshit now. HughBeaumont Jun 2013 #63
Yup, 6 more years until retirement, then I'll follow some dreams.... callous taoboy Jun 2013 #64
Most dreams turn into nightmares. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #66
"Is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worse?" -- Bruce Springsteen. nt raccoon Jun 2013 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Jun 2013 #70
The Onion: Turning Satire Off For a Bit . . . HughBeaumont Jun 2013 #73
After graduation, it took awhile to figure out 4_TN_TITANS Jun 2013 #75
Dynamic balance + Isn't it to be expected that a dysfunctional culture would produce inflated patrice Jun 2013 #76
"Follow your dreams" isn't only about getting a job, it is about living a good life. cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #81
Without a roof over your head and food to eat, there's nothing to strive for either... YoungDemCA Jun 2013 #86
except food and shelter. We all have different levels of dreams and goals. cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #91
. snagglepuss Jun 2013 #83
The issue is that we a society and system that equates happiness with wealth and status... YoungDemCA Jun 2013 #85
Scott Adams' take on this jrandom421 Jun 2013 #87
But Dilbert is a miserable little man living in his own self-imposed hell. hunter Jun 2013 #104
Harry Chapin's take on this jrandom421 Jun 2013 #88
She should just say "Look student you're flamingdem Jun 2013 #98
All I got from that advice was a restraining order.... WCGreen Jun 2013 #101
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