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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts) Wed Jun 5, 2013, 12:03 PM Jun 2013

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Raise your hand if you enjoyed/cheered when that guy threw a shoe at George W. Bush. [View all]

I did. You did. And you. And you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you, and also you.

So hush already about how bad hecklers are.

The idea that our leaders are not living gods who cannot be ruffled by the peons in the peanut gallery, and the idea that breaking through our scripted spoon-fed media reality with a well-timed shout can have positive side-effects, are healthy aspects of a free society. There are no hecklers in North Korea, and that's a bad thing.

Besides, you totally loved the shoe guy. There's probably lots of proof of that right here in the DU archives.

So.

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Raise your hand if you enjoyed/cheered when that guy threw a shoe at George W. Bush. [View all] WilliamPitt Jun 2013 OP

You do realize this is one OP that may not get many records. William769 Jun 2013 #1

? WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #5

I also recorded the OP. William769 Jun 2013 #7

Still not following. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #15

They are throwing shoes at you? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #19

My confusion deepens. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #21

Has to be "recommend" instaed of "record." Travelman Jun 2013 #127

Lost in Translation: Rec = Recording. But should = Recommend. TalkingDog Jun 2013 #20

Yes, Will, thank you tavalon Jun 2013 #268

Bookmarking for when the "shoes" come hurling at Hillary. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #39

She is strong enough to take it. William769 Jun 2013 #42

I know, she's dodged "sniper fire" on many occasions. Right? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #47

She did what many have tried and failed at William769 Jun 2013 #57

ah yes Saint Hillary DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #105

add the Honduras coup to that list. Whisp Jun 2013 #156

Bill Clinton also fell under Greenspan's spell. Hocus, pocus if there JDPriestly Jun 2013 #254

actually she did dodge sniper fire. indivisibleman Jun 2013 #197

This message was self-deleted by its author indivisibleman Jun 2013 #198

You're full of crap. She made that claim when she was running in '08, and no one could confirm it.. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #200

You are full of crap. Here is her explanation of her statement. indivisibleman Jun 2013 #206

Well alrighty then. I guess you told me. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #228

Michelle Obama is a role model but NOT one of "our leaders." Hillary was, and may be again. MADem Jun 2013 #62

MADem, you are spot on, as usual. The heckler got attention, but it's mostly negative attention. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #79

I'm disappointed in the whole OP, frankly. MADem Jun 2013 #110

I agree with this Dorian Gray Jun 2013 #264

Agreed. GREAT point you make, Tarheel_Dem. calimary Jun 2013 #133

I believe Code Pink looks upon Rand Paul as a "useful idiot" in the Brennan matter. nt. eilen Jun 2013 #270

Catch your Drift? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #136

"you are not helping us fight the republicans". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #142

We Democratic Party Activists are clownish? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #172

Exactly. cui bono Jun 2013 #248

Here, perhaps this will "pacify" you. Is this your idea of "fighting the republicans"? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #149

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #174

And having met you now, I see you seem to be a DU'er full of "EMPTY" rhetoric. I don't follow... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #187

No, journals are like cloth RobertEarl Jun 2013 #189

White sheet? Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #195

My Mama would've kicked my ass if I messed up her "white sheets", being black and all. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #204

I should have known Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #205

He's probably off somewhere making more wrong ASSumptions. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #227

That's not cool. n/t cui bono Jun 2013 #251

Unfortunately, Paul was right about what he was saying about drones cui bono Jun 2013 #250

How about Jay Carney? quakerboy Jun 2013 #143

Is Jay a family member? Does he get a paycheck? Is that paycheck from the US govt? MADem Jun 2013 #148

Did you even read my post? quakerboy Jun 2013 #165

She wasn't there to "act as a surrogate for the President." MADem Jun 2013 #170

I was actually agreeing with you quakerboy Jun 2013 #217

This entire thread is comparing those words aimed at Michelle to those shoes thrown at Porgie. MADem Jun 2013 #229

Heres where we come to disagree. William769 Jun 2013 #150

Ready---FIRE---Aim. MADem Jun 2013 #157

great posts, MADem Whisp Jun 2013 #161

And spot on I might add madokie Jun 2013 #223

Thank you. I learned from Larry O'Donnell tonight that the hosts of this shindig were a married, MADem Jun 2013 #225

Nailed it. Which is one reason this OP makes no sense Number23 Jun 2013 #240

Spot on, MADem! BlueMTexpat Jun 2013 #271

I agree. I hardly think one of the most visible gay "power couples" in DC would invite Michelle MADem Jun 2013 #273

I agree. And all too often people confuse "free speech" with a right to express BlueMTexpat Jun 2013 #277

I get it now. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #140

I tried. William769 Jun 2013 #147

(((hug))) WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #151

I am happy to say I was wrong about the records. William769 Jun 2013 #152

You get some credit. After your post #1, I recorded it twice. Dont tell Skinner. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #179

Each heckle situation is unique. Heckling elected officials is one thing, being rude is another. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #2

Indeed. Too bad the average American citizen has the political power of a toddler eridani Jun 2013 #208

OK RockaFowler Jun 2013 #3

"a private fundraiser"??? Wilms Jun 2013 #13

It took place in a private home. Details: MADem Jun 2013 #255

I cheered. HughBeaumont Jun 2013 #4

As long as we have public speakers, we'll have hecklers. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #6

Alberto Gonzales had a position in government for which he received a paycheck. MADem Jun 2013 #159

Depends on the situation MattBaggins Jun 2013 #224

Would you heckle their wives? MADem Jun 2013 #247

Loved it Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 #8

I found it quite humorous Go Vols Jun 2013 #9

Too bad both shoes did not smack ol' WAR CRIMINAL Gee-Dumbya square in the face. Raster Jun 2013 #97

a tooth for a tooth, and a heel for a heel. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #162

Always a pleasure and a big laugh to see that video again! CTyankee Jun 2013 #122

Of course. But the First Lady is not an elected official. onehandle Jun 2013 #10

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #11

Besides, the President and Mrs. Obama handle hecklers well. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #12

They stomp their feet & threaten to leave. William769 Jun 2013 #16

That is a wildly inaccurate description. No one stomped their feet. No one even raised their voice. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #18

she threatened to leave.. frylock Jun 2013 #90

Another buzzword. nt DevonRex Jun 2013 #93

yeh, i'm a racist.. frylock Jun 2013 #137

How about 'she could have handled that better'? Pretty simple. nt DevonRex Jun 2013 #146

Huh? So she should be forced to stay? She did handle it with grace. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #94

The things people have said DevonRex Jun 2013 #120

I think the first lady did handle the incident gracefully... onpatrol98 Jun 2013 #117

No, she confronted the heckler and pretty much left it up geek tragedy Jun 2013 #167

The hosts of this soiree were a gay couple. The audience was full of gay people. MADem Jun 2013 #253

Are you saying this is how the Obamas handle hecklers? demwing Jun 2013 #80

Really. Well, that's that. nt DevonRex Jun 2013 #92

Yes, she was bad for talking back to the nice white lady. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #164

+oo phantom power Jun 2013 #14

I don't think people are required to approve of all hecklers. Skinner Jun 2013 #17

Well, that's just human nature (especially re: Bush or Obama hecklers). WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #23

Fair enough. But it's also possible to take some pleasure from hecklers... Skinner Jun 2013 #52

Great way to tow the party line after the fact. William769 Jun 2013 #113

I wasn't aware that a shoe was thrown at Laura Bush Beaverhausen Jun 2013 #22

I laughed my ass off... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #24

I remember thinking, should have aimed for the chest, harder to dodge out of the way. (bad me) nt Jerry442 Jun 2013 #28

True- head shots are tough. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #35

yep, he had been ducking for 8 years. And let's remember where and when that shoe was thrown. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #70

Yep... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #99

K&R nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #25

The only thing I didn't love about the shoe heckler is that he missed. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #26

Raises hand. Cleita Jun 2013 #27

Yes I totally loved the shoe guy! MuseRider Jun 2013 #29

Shoe guy disappointed me abelenkpe Jun 2013 #30

She is NOT an elected Official JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #31

"...who obviously only cares about herself and NOT poor, urban children." WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #34

She only paid that JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #45

Please allow me to associate myself with your comments. MADem Jun 2013 #96

Did she pay $500.00? Go Vols Jun 2013 #111

Someone did...but that's all the more proof that the entire situation was jive and low rent. MADem Jun 2013 #124

Any thing you advocate will get no support from me then MattBaggins Jun 2013 #226

I think there's a difference between a Big Tent party and a group of tone - deaf nitwits. MADem Jun 2013 #232

Still missed my point MattBaggins Jun 2013 #234

I am not talking about groups, plural -- I am talking about ONE group. MADem Jun 2013 #235

GetEqual and Michelle are both my friends MattBaggins Jun 2013 #236

Well, one of your friends took a big shit on another of your friends. MADem Jun 2013 #237

Yeah, I was about to say I agreed with the OP. randome Jun 2013 #41

She handled that perfectly JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #58

I actually agree with the OP and think it's stupid as hell at the same time. Number23 Jun 2013 #242

And she didn't get a shoe thrown at her, either. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #84

Which means that this OP is apropos of absolutely nothing. MADem Jun 2013 #112

yeh, people should know their place frylock Jun 2013 #91

I thought it was kinda funny Spirochete Jun 2013 #32

There's quite a list of things that many DUers wish President Obama was doing differently. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #33

Michelle Obama is not a mass murderer. Whisp Jun 2013 #36

This +1000 wickerwoman Jun 2013 #125

YES, that's the difference: DESERVING to be HECKLED (and WORSE) Martin Eden Jun 2013 #184

+1,000 !!!! MADem Jun 2013 #238

MADem I think you are cooler than an ice cream in February. But I rec'd this thread Number23 Jun 2013 #244

I can buy that. MADem Jun 2013 #245

Oh, I think the OP knows that. And most of the people screaming do as well Number23 Jun 2013 #252

I was actually impressed by W's quick reaction jberryhill Jun 2013 #37

Me too. MoonchildCA Jun 2013 #65

Dubya was expecting it . . . ConcernedCanuk Jun 2013 #256

This violates rule number 17 Savannahmann Jun 2013 #38

"Many of us think the President is not left enough, he's left his base". Define "Many". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #44

Seriously? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #63

I guess I was hoping for something more scientific, like a poll, perhaps? But alas, more unsubstan- Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #141

I don't think there's any hypocrisy going on at all. MADem Jun 2013 #163

Never mind. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #171

Great for her, and great for Michelle Obama for not taking any shit either. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #40

I will never complain about PETA's tactics again, because their cause is just. bluedigger Jun 2013 #43

Sorry, but I didn't brooklynite Jun 2013 #46

^^ this ^^ Myrina Jun 2013 #269

No I cried because he missed the son of a bitch.......... faithnomore Jun 2013 #48

MO did not have her heckler swarmed with armed guards riqster Jun 2013 #49

I heaven05 Jun 2013 #50

No, I didn't. I cringed. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #51

I enjoyed it even more rocktivity Jun 2013 #53

I would have enjoyed it more if it had hit him. n/t RiffRandell Jun 2013 #54

Sorry--I wouldn't have felt the same way if the guy threw the shoes at LAURA BUSH. MADem Jun 2013 #55

I did and do. We (supposedly) don't have royalty here and we are free to say what we will to Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #56

I just wish the guy would have aimed better and Hubert Flottz Jun 2013 #59

I never thought I'd have to add you to Full Ignore but now I will ZRT2209 Jun 2013 #60

LOL WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #95

Exactly. Iggo Jun 2013 #61

I did Aerows Jun 2013 #64

I like Bill Maher on the "Miss Me Yet?" billboards: Initech Jun 2013 #66

Cheered? Hell I xxqqqzme Jun 2013 #67

Actually I didn't enjoy or cheer Sheepshank Jun 2013 #68

Many here seem reverent of the fact that this was a $500 "private" event BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #219

Don't you think the hosts of that party deserved any consideration, in their private home? MADem Jun 2013 #260

As I understand this was a gathering not for political fundraising... Sheepshank Jun 2013 #267

Funny that it is you who don't know the facts BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #274

Doesn't matter who organized the fundraiser...here, Michelle's own words Sheepshank Jun 2013 #275

Proving my earlier point beautifully BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #276

The shoe thrower took more action OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #69

He had more courage. Maybe shock and awe made him do it, mountain grammy Jun 2013 #74

agreed, I wish the guy had better aim steve2470 Jun 2013 #88

word frylock Jun 2013 #98

For the win! BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #220

She could have just given Michelle a disapproving look..but the protest wouldn't have worked. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #71

Obama would have caught the shoe ninja style Phillyindy Jun 2013 #72

Please send old shoes to new Bush library on point Jun 2013 #73

Great idea.. I'm doing it! mountain grammy Jun 2013 #77

the problem I see is madokie Jun 2013 #75

I laughed my ass off arely staircase Jun 2013 #76

Bravo to both. The purpose of protest is to draw public attention. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #78

Funniest thing I ever saw. When i first read the headline that the First Lady was heckled at a chelsea0011 Jun 2013 #81

Gotta admit though, she did not just stand there looking stupid. appleannie1 Jun 2013 #85

LMAO appleannie1 Jun 2013 #82

Having a shoe thrown at a murdering war criminal is fine with me. Lint Head Jun 2013 #83

Same with me KansDem Jun 2013 #138

Not a popular opinion around here, Will - Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #86

I just felt the same way I always felt whenever W was in the news. Mr.Bill Jun 2013 #87

I loved it!!!! LeftInTX Jun 2013 #89

They were supposed to greet us as liberators. Brigid Jun 2013 #166

I am still laughing kairos12 Jun 2013 #100

shoe tosser obxnacy Jun 2013 #101

I dislike vigilantism Skittles Jun 2013 #102

Actually, I was disappointed in him Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #103

Utterly lame comparison BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #104

Was Laura Bush president at the time? No? jeff47 Jun 2013 #106

I was only sorry the guy didn't throw a balut instead of a shoe tularetom Jun 2013 #107

:::raising both hands::::: forestpath Jun 2013 #108

He was pretzeldent then. And I enjoyed it. nt Ilsa Jun 2013 #109

!! Jack Rabbit Jun 2013 #114

It think it's kind of obvious on a Democratic/liberal board that many posters loved the Shoe guy. Jennicut Jun 2013 #115

Oh boy did I cheer and LAUGH!! KauaiK Jun 2013 #116

I wouldn't have cheered if a shoe was thrown at Laura apples and oranges Jun 2013 #118

Here's something nice about W: I thought that Bush was surprisingly agile when he ducked. ;-) leveymg Jun 2013 #119

I did not cheer because even though I am a proud liberal and disagreed with many mfcorey1 Jun 2013 #121

Also, I never cheered. I was mentally apples and oranges Jun 2013 #123

REC #100 = REC this thread if you wish you had throw a shoe at Bush!! Coyotl Jun 2013 #126

The FLOTUS heckler was being a rude disruptor. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #128

Both hands up malaise Jun 2013 #129

I don't know what I posted on DU about it, ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #130

I didn't mind it... Xyzse Jun 2013 #131

yep! LeftishBrit Jun 2013 #132

False equivalency panader0 Jun 2013 #134

She is the First Lady speaking at a fund raiser, a purely political event. She is no Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #158

I'm wondering if they ever built a statue of the guy who threw it? Or at least a bronze statue of TrollBuster9090 Jun 2013 #135

I'll put my hand up and wave it with enthusiasm LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #139

agreed. I have no issues with hecklers. if the speaker cant take it they shouldnt be speaking bowens43 Jun 2013 #144

I have never, ever seen an incident of heckling *not* have detrators at DU. ieoeja Jun 2013 #145

You mean there is hypocrisy here? polynomial Jun 2013 #153

Exactly, hecklers are a good thing! they say things when others wont! HeroInAHalfShell Jun 2013 #154

I thought it was fricking awesome!! Greybnk48 Jun 2013 #155

You are forgetting one thing: Brigid Jun 2013 #160

Also, GWB was a horrible person Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #168

As seen from your perspective. Pres Obama may not look too cool to gay federal employees. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #177

Did Obama invade the federal government geek tragedy Jun 2013 #190

K&R I did. Still do. I also beleive there is nothing wrong with 'heckling', idwiyo Jun 2013 #169

Guilty nt Betsy Ross Jun 2013 #173

Two wrongs and all that jazz. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #175

I think it is important for the first family to keep grounded. Things rhett o rick Jun 2013 #176

yea! let's emulate iraq. spanone Jun 2013 #178

I didn't... one_voice Jun 2013 #180

Here. Th1onein Jun 2013 #181

There's a difference. Scootaloo Jun 2013 #182

You win the thread, Scootaloo! says me, anyway.. There's a big Cha Jun 2013 #201

correct--and how a pol handles them tells you a lot too yurbud Jun 2013 #183

Did Michelle Obama get elected to an office or become president while I was asleep? Tx4obama Jun 2013 #185

President Obama had an emotional breakdown. randome Jun 2013 #188

I cheered my ass off. Heckling comes with the territory Autumn Jun 2013 #186

I'm not an Obama Cheerleader by any means warrprayer Jun 2013 #191

Last week we had CODE PINK olddots Jun 2013 #192

Busted. hay rick Jun 2013 #193

Bush killed hundreds of thousands. caseymoz Jun 2013 #194

I don't think hecklers are bad Generic Other Jun 2013 #196

If a shoe was thrown at Obama indivisibleman Jun 2013 #199

LOL - I can see that LeftInTX Jun 2013 #257

I honestly, truly regret that incident. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2013 #202

I didn't cheer, but I was disappointed when he missed. AndyA Jun 2013 #203

"The idea that our leaders are not living gods who cannot be ruffled by the peons . ." Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #207

I did not. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #209

DU is rife with Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #210

+100 % n/t politicasista Jun 2013 #213

A gamer made a video parody of the shoe thrower Rain Mcloud Jun 2013 #211

I don't think family of the President should be heckled tammywammy Jun 2013 #212

Me either. ScreamingMeemie Jun 2013 #215

Mrs. Obama did not run for office. ScreamingMeemie Jun 2013 #214

I wish everyone would stop using capital letters when spelling bush's name Victor_c3 Jun 2013 #216

I laughed. It was rude and insulting, but I still laughed (n/t) Retrograde Jun 2013 #218

I Liked His Rationale So Much That I Kept a Copy yellowwoodII Jun 2013 #221

I believe the Shoe Guy actually tossed a full pair... VOX Jun 2013 #222

Here's a little more info from Shoe Guy: Lars39 Jun 2013 #230

Mixed emotions... He did throw the shoe, but he did miss. Thor_MN Jun 2013 #231

Yay, heckling! Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #233

Hnad raised (with a smirk) nt Jasana Jun 2013 #239

! Solly Mack Jun 2013 #241

yup . nt La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #243

Proud to be the 208th rec. nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #246

William, I'm surprised and disappointed you don't see the difference. n/t donheld Jun 2013 #249

I did but I KNOW if Laura was heckled I didn't cheer Raine Jun 2013 #258

I don't condemn the Buddhist monks in Vietnam who set themselves on fire either but extreme actions Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #259

Somebody had to say it. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #261

Michelle Obama now equals George Bush? JoePhilly Jun 2013 #262

I.O.K.I.Y.R. corkhead Jun 2013 #263

I raise two hands (NT) The Wizard Jun 2013 #265

I'm just sorry the guy didn't throw a couple of Hubert Flottz Jun 2013 #266

This is apples and oranges if ever I saw it, Will. BlueMTexpat Jun 2013 #272

Bush is a war criminal. Michelle Obama isn't. Violet_Crumble Jun 2013 #278