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LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
10. This is true
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 05:42 PM
Jun 2013

but I suspect even a definitive proof of cause and effect wouldn't convince anyone. I have taken into account the other reports surrounding the numbers when the numbers first appeared: I'd already read the reports from Sweden indicating a worsening of conditions and the increased difficulties in locating the now deeply underground sex trade, so the fact that the numbers are rising in spite of that makes it reasonable to assume that the rise really *is* a rise, not just the result of better policing.

Likewise, the reports from German police, as I mentioned, have been that legalization has made the traffickers and their victims easier to identify, even if law enforcement considers the punishments inadequate. So it's fairly reasonable to assume, also, that the drop in trafficking really *is* a drop in trafficking, and not just underenforcement.

It may not be provable, but there are some reasonable conclusions that can be drawn given other reported conditions in both countries. Sweden has not done well by most accounts. Germany OTOH had a large-scale test in 2006 with the World Cup "40,000 trafficking victims" flap and responded well to it, even though both the number and the hysteria turned out to be ridiculous. With all that factored in, I think the statistics are probably correct. Other people's MMV.

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Wrong conclusion Warpy Jun 2013 #1
Germany's trafficking has dropped: LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #2
Der Spiegel agrees with the London School of Economics: hedgehog Jun 2013 #4
The numbers still disagree with their assertion. Sorry. LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #5
I don't dispute what you are saying Major Nikon Jun 2013 #9
This is true LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #10
It certainly wouldn't surprise me if you are correct Major Nikon Jun 2013 #12
They had exit programs set up LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #23
Because Sweden's immigration polices are f'd up! Quantess Jun 2013 #8
Ugh LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #11
No, it's not the same. Quantess Jun 2013 #14
I misread what you had written, sorry LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #19
No not at all! I didn't mean it that way, you didn't insert foot into mouth. Quantess Jun 2013 #21
My reading was faulty LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #22
ok Quantess Jun 2013 #24
Have you seen the news about the recent Stockholm riots? Quantess Jun 2013 #17
It would basically legalize it here loyalsister Jun 2013 #3
Just like legalizing cannabis increases illegal drugs. Downwinder Jun 2013 #6
Please elaborate. n/t theaocp Jun 2013 #13
I should have added a sarcasm tag. Downwinder Jun 2013 #16
No worries. theaocp Jun 2013 #18
Gee, who could have predicted? geek tragedy Jun 2013 #7
Reading the actual paper is interesting quakerboy Jun 2013 #15
Yeah cultural phemonena has an effect as well Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #20
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