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loyalsister

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34. Sadly, I'm not surprised anymore

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 06:50 PM

Jun 2013

The unconditional free speech defenders seem to disregard the value of civil discourse. Ironically that has been the chief complaint many of us have had about how republicans treat the president.

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I'm SHOCKED by the number of people here in favor of heckling non-elected officials. [View all] JaneyVee Jun 2013 OP

Joe Wilson is the new Miss Manners. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #1

Heckling anyone is okay; so long as that person has a role in the topic of heckling Scootaloo Jun 2013 #2

Heckling peripheral people Roy Rolling Jun 2013 #29

You mean non elected, non officials, don't you? Warpy Jun 2013 #3

The person who heckled Michelle madokie Jun 2013 #7

Yeah, wrong person and wrong place Warpy Jun 2013 #15

Exactly madokie Jun 2013 #18

Because she sleeps with the man who -- Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #10

Wow alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #16

And if you think men take their marching orders from the wife Warpy Jun 2013 #21

Michelle Obama has more power and opportunity to influence the one man who can make a change. LonePirate Jun 2013 #45

Maybe they don't do *pillow talk* madokie Jun 2013 #22

Not having pulled a menage a tois with 'em, I wouldn't know. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #31

Apparently there are some here who are unfamiliar with -- Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #54

I see your name... Whisp Jun 2013 #57

You can't have it both ways dbackjon Jun 2013 #78

Celebrity doesn't equal official power. Warpy Jun 2013 #90

So she is just a Celebrity? dbackjon Jun 2013 #91

Beautiful Heckling warrprayer Jun 2013 #4

But surely screaming policy ideas at the First Lady, Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #5

You mean interrupted the FUNDRAISING FOR THE DNC dbackjon Jun 2013 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 Jun 2013 #58

should i assume you find the plight of inner city children irrelevant? Bodhi BloodWave Jun 2013 #65

I find the plight very relevant dbackjon Jun 2013 #68

It was a speech about getting Democrats elected muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #71

where is the line between heckling and challenging...? mike_c Jun 2013 #6

Where was the challenge? frazzled Jun 2013 #17

oh I generally agree... mike_c Jun 2013 #24

That was a small part of her FUNDRAISING SPEECH dbackjon Jun 2013 #39

Since the only audio clip that exists has no fundraising talk ... frazzled Jun 2013 #40

She was fundraising for the DNC dbackjon Jun 2013 #60

Full transcript muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #72

Transcript shows 90% of speech is NOT about fundraising at all frazzled Jun 2013 #77

So the fundraiser was explicitly an LBT Women's Discussion and Reception? The heckle was on-topic muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #87

The LBT hosts did not think it was on-topic /nt frazzled Jun 2013 #88

BUT IT IS THE CHILDREN! dbackjon Jun 2013 #79

I don't support it at all, but I understand ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #8

As a second-class citizen, I do judge it boorish and badly thought out (if at all). -nt Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #14

I understand where you're coming from. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #28

Oh fer fucks sake.... Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #9

I absolutely positively agree! defacto7 Jun 2013 #11

EVER been to a sports arena? Rex Jun 2013 #12

Would you consider somebodies private home/property to be 'in the public realm'? Bodhi BloodWave Jun 2013 #66

our society is childish and rude. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #13

That can be a good thing. Igel Jun 2013 #32

I don't have that big of a problem with it PROVIDED THAT geek tragedy Jun 2013 #19

That's a good point muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #73

For the most part, I agree. randome Jun 2013 #20

um, she is the wife of the POTUS, of course she is a public figure quinnox Jun 2013 #23

exactly frylock Jun 2013 #59

Would it be OK with you if I heckled Rush Limbaugh? Glenn Beckkk? Rupert Murdoch? David Koch? Scuba Jun 2013 #25

SHOCKING GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #26

I agree maidensandiego Jun 2013 #27

Right, because wives have no power over their husbands at all. Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #30

Might as well start screaming at the kids too, then Scootaloo Jun 2013 #44

Nah, the wife will do just fine. n/t Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #92

I'm not an Obama cheerleader by any means warrprayer Jun 2013 #33

Sadly, I'm not surprised anymore loyalsister Jun 2013 #34

You mean like Rumsfeld, Scalia, Kissinger, Powell? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #35

I'm shocked that so few people in an supposedly Progressive forum dbackjon Jun 2013 #36

I'm equally shocked that so many here in a supposedly Progressive forum frazzled Jun 2013 #43

so is that now a dead issue? frylock Jun 2013 #61

You realize this was a fundraising speech dbackjon Jun 2013 #81

I think everyone here agrees with the policy argument/advocacy the geek tragedy Jun 2013 #75

Actually everyone here doesn't dbackjon Jun 2013 #80

I haven't seen that, but anyone who says that is an asshole. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #83

It should have happened 5 years ago. dbackjon Jun 2013 #84

No argument from me on that, nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #85

Heckling M.O. was not a good heckle in my opinion. DirkGently Jun 2013 #37

Good grief. 99Forever Jun 2013 #41

Venue makes a huge difference. This was too close, too personal. DevonRex Jun 2013 #42

If the venue makes a difference for the heckling, then power of the heckle is already lost. LonePirate Jun 2013 #48

Seems like Michelle's right to stand up for herself is lost on some DUers. DevonRex Jun 2013 #53

I have no issues with MO responding to the protestor. I never stated she should simply take it. LonePirate Jun 2013 #55

be sure and mix in an accusation of racism for full effect.. frylock Jun 2013 #62

I am shocked at how obsessed some of you are that she got heckled and everybody doesnt agree boilerbabe Jun 2013 #46

Right. Like she can't influence the president. Apophis Jun 2013 #47

I don't have a problem with what happened to Michelle joeglow3 Jun 2013 #49

I'm not, incivility & selfishness is the norm anymore. nt Raine Jun 2013 #50

She is not an official. Michelle that is. cliffordu Jun 2013 #51

There's heckling and then there's harassing. ucrdem Jun 2013 #52

I'm not shocked at all. Whisp Jun 2013 #56

I am not certain why it is OK to heckle anyone by your arguments Gore1FL Jun 2013 #63

Heckling people who don't have the power to change what you are objecting to is pointless eridani Jun 2013 #64

A few more months, and I'll be shocked by the number of people who still post here. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #67

If it was George Bush? Fearless Jun 2013 #69

I'm shocked that anyone would forget that politicians represent US Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #70

SHOCKED, you tell us. leeroysphitz Jun 2013 #74

The Koch brothers are not elected officials MattBaggins Jun 2013 #76

I think this is much ado about nothing gollygee Jun 2013 #82

I'll take this one step farther and say that PotatoChip Jun 2013 #86

Get on a soapbox; expose yourself to hecklers. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #89