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In reply to the discussion: “She came right down in my face,” Sturtz said. “I was taken aback.” [View all]emulatorloo
(45,485 posts)244. "By ratfucking DU they demoralize Democrats and get them to not show up to vote."
Amen! Thank you so much for posting this.
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“She came right down in my face,” Sturtz said. “I was taken aback.” [View all]
MrScorpio
Jun 2013
OP
Well sometimes black women have reason to be angry. This was one of those times.
politicaljunkie41910
Jun 2013
#57
Yeah, I was thinking that only Repukes have the exclusive franchise to be disrespectful to our
indepat
Jun 2013
#145
Maybe taking care of the male heckler who interrupted Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
DevonRex
Jun 2013
#209
Too bad there's no video. Secret Service was watching. Not overreacting, but alert.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#162
That's the trope all the Obama haters have gotten into their heads today
alcibiades_mystery
Jun 2013
#63
No, it doesn't. It just means that people paid to hear Michelle, not the heckler. n/t
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#172
The comments that the FLOTUS has endured as a woman of color since 2008 have sickened me. It's as if
freshwest
Jun 2013
#53
If Michelle or any politician refuses to speak at private/elite fundraisers then I shall applaud
BrotherIvan
Jun 2013
#11
For five hundred bucks, I'm sure that Ellen Sturz could have afforded her own microphone
MrScorpio
Jun 2013
#15
Irony that $500 a plate is going to inner-city children? We should be upset about that?
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#122
Five hundred a plate is chickenfeed. Mitt "Trees the Right Height" Romney didn't do those gigs for
MADem
Jun 2013
#138
Apparently the protester's activist group paid the bill and planted the protester there to do the
MADem
Jun 2013
#159
Yes, but you know what the meme is, that 'Democrats are spineless' and won't fight back.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#166
Which is why I say to these so-called activists, if they want to make change, direct their
MADem
Jun 2013
#169
"By ratfucking DU they demoralize Democrats and get them to not show up to vote."
emulatorloo
Jun 2013
#244
Maybe people *should expect to be confronted* when they confront others, instead of being one-sided.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#121
Don't forget the VAWA which the GOP kept trying to deny LGBT and Natives from being covered.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#192
The heckler didn't give a shit. Her cause was more important that any other.
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#327
She is the most impressive first lady I can remember...and I remember Mamie!
Sekhmets Daughter
Jun 2013
#27
Please give your details on this EO and how it was enforced in the Bush administration when he
freshwest
Jun 2013
#245
Thanks. What of the changes Bush made? I don't consider them just, or environmental.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#266
That didn't happen in the U.S. A shoe-thrower would have been arrested here. n/t
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#337
Absolutely and it does have to do with race imo & what they are used to getting away re: minorities
lunasun
Jun 2013
#256
I came across this story on Tumblr, as it was posted by a black lesbian that I follow
MrScorpio
Jun 2013
#68
"Black Queer voices...are standing up for Mrs. Obama and NOT for Ms. Sturtz."
Number23
Jun 2013
#265
I'm trying to decide what the right intersectional thing to do here for both women would have been
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#123
I seriously doubt that Sturtz would have been interested in any form of intersectionality at all
MrScorpio
Jun 2013
#134
No. A woman has the right to stand up for herself to someone shouting in her face. nt
DevonRex
Jun 2013
#95
I thought bravo Mrs. Obama.....someone has got to put a stop to this madness of interrupting anyone
a kennedy
Jun 2013
#56
The vitriol that the first black family has endured is a national disgrace. It's beyond political.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#61
While I agree with Maher's sentiments, I don't think this was at all about race.
GoCubsGo
Jun 2013
#99
I didn't say it was about race, but as the first black family, that's the atmosphere nationally.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#132
Hi fresh.. and she still held it together. I found this on TOD from someone who was there
Cha
Jun 2013
#157
Thanks for the additional take from someone who was actually there, Cha. It shows privilege, and a
freshwest
Jun 2013
#161
Here's another personal account of someone else who was at the fundraiser for inner city kids..
Cha
Jun 2013
#170
Do you mean to purposefully conflate what the middle aged lesbian who wants her civil rights did...
Kurovski
Jun 2013
#338
This is a rhetorical trick used most clumsily. Your comment is most unwelcome.
Buzz Clik
Jun 2013
#79
Sturtz was hoping to verbally abuse and berate the First Lady until she cried or broke down, I think
ZRT2209
Jun 2013
#77
Ellen Sturtz says she was 'surprised'..she should use all the interviews now- to make her point.
Sunlei
Jun 2013
#86
Ms. Sturtz. Rudeness is NOT the way to lend credence to your cause. When you are being rude it
appleannie1
Jun 2013
#87
I suppose you think Rosa Parks was rude for not following custom by refusing to give up her bus seat
LonePirate
Jun 2013
#103
If the venue matters to you, then I question your commitment to Constitutional and civil rights
LonePirate
Jun 2013
#286
Question away. At least you showed enough sense not to try and equate Sturtz with Rosa Parks again.
11 Bravo
Jun 2013
#288
I support any citizen directly questioning and criticizing people of authority and influence
LonePirate
Jun 2013
#289
I'll ask you again, should the First Lady be interrupted any time she addresses an issue other than
11 Bravo
Jun 2013
#293
No, you didn't. And this has now become akin to arguing with my nutcase, fundie, co-worker.
11 Bravo
Jun 2013
#296
I didn't ask if you "support" it. The question I asked is SHOULD (see, that's the key word)
11 Bravo
Jun 2013
#302
At last, you finally answered. So, to recap, if your answer to all of my questions is yes ...
11 Bravo
Jun 2013
#306
It's disturbing that you're more outraged by the interruption than by the lack of LGBT civil rights
LonePirate
Jun 2013
#308
It's interesting how you believe you can determine DU's level of outrage regarding one topic...
11 Bravo
Jun 2013
#315
When exactly would Sturtz have gotten both MO's and the public's undivided attention and ears?
LonePirate
Jun 2013
#299
She grabbed MO's attention for a few moments and made the national news yesterday
LonePirate
Jun 2013
#301
The cause already had attention...now it has negative attention. That was good?
Sheepshank
Jun 2013
#312
If Sturtz's actions compel Pres. Obama to not sign the EO, then he's a bigot.
LonePirate
Jun 2013
#313
your assertion that this heckling act alone SHOULD compel Michelle to Force POTUS
Sheepshank
Jun 2013
#324
Rosa Parks didn't yell. She quietly sat down and silently refused to give up her seat
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#328
So sound volume is your determining factor when deciding if a cause is just?
LonePirate
Jun 2013
#330
If PO should write an executive order for her issue, why shouldn't he write one for MY issue, for
patrice
Jun 2013
#94
The order is already in the works. I don't believe this was what this was about. Nope, I don't.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#182
Agreed. It wasn't to get any message out. What message? Nobody even HEARD them but
DevonRex
Jun 2013
#195
I'm sure this will not have a chilling effect on anyone's support for LGBT's. That's about all of us
freshwest
Jun 2013
#229
It's troubling how the internet, including the DU, helps A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G like that out. People act
patrice
Jun 2013
#196
Well, I understand that. I don't take this place very serious anymore for that reason.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#243
The disrespect of the Obamas by (some) progressives goes back to day one.
PragmaticLiberal
Jun 2013
#149
it's really not that difficult to differentiate between dissatisfied liberals and racists either..
frylock
Jun 2013
#152
Because she couldn't stand the idea of the spotlight going to the black communtiy for even one day
TekGryphon
Jun 2013
#117
The GOP can't even stand that the black community exists and work to eliminate that fact:
freshwest
Jun 2013
#323
Waaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!! I behaved like a shithead and got called on it!!! Waaaaaaaaah!!! nt
MADem
Jun 2013
#133
And she risked alienating people who would otherwise be sympathetic to her cause.
calimary
Jun 2013
#348
I hope the organizers write a check and send her money back to her. I have a
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#329
Because heckling is meant to intimidate, not inform. To degrade, not discuss.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#320
There's no expectation of it, but maybe with some class? It's not the "Houswives of Washington DC."
Kurovski
Jun 2013
#334
I actually think threatening to leave a group of people who had paid to see you because
Flaxbee
Jun 2013
#167
I am going to turn this car around RIGHT Now! That is how mom's have dealt with childess behavior.
alphafemale
Jun 2013
#174
but that's what Michelle was going to do. Let poor behavoir spoil it for everyone.
Flaxbee
Jun 2013
#232
Not only that, she offered her the mike to say her piece. No, this was a stunt, not advocacy.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#317
The only person that Mrs. O could have been possibly "rude" to was the heckler.
MrScorpio
Jun 2013
#186
Are you saying that Sturtz had just as much a right to that mic as Michelle Obama?
MrScorpio
Jun 2013
#221
If what you say is correct, why then did the crowd reward Michelle with a return to the podium?
MrScorpio
Jun 2013
#239
Then let's just disagree. I don't think it was brilliant. But that makes me no less an
Flaxbee
Jun 2013
#305
The audience did not pay $500 to hear a disruptor and they would have made that known regardless.
CakeGrrl
Jun 2013
#224
You know, I've seen loads of bullshit shoveled on DU before, but this takes the cake
MrScorpio
Jun 2013
#269
LOL! The name calling never stops. It's all good though, right? Just Michelle Obama.
DevonRex
Jun 2013
#213
Mrs. Obama said she would be headed out the door if the woman chose to speak.
Kurovski
Jun 2013
#335
That's odd. I am a G in the LGBT community and don't feel MO disrespected me.
Liberal Veteran
Jun 2013
#247
She was given a chance to engage like an adult with the mike. She refused. Publicity stunt.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#318
And the First Lady said that if the woman did indeed engage, she was going to head out the door.
Kurovski
Jun 2013
#339