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73. I'm a feminist who thinks that women should be able to have some privacy

Reply to Humanist_Activist (Reply #66)

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:01 AM

Jun 2013

in the bathroom and locker rooms, and that transwomen are not a threat to us but some men are.

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A man disguised as a woman videotaped women using the ladies' room, [View all] pnwmom Jun 2013 OP

This is the kind of thing that I'm willing to err on the side of inclusivity. Brickbat Jun 2013 #1

I'm curious whether you are saying this as a woman or a man? pnwmom Jun 2013 #6

It's impossible to protect everyone from everything all the time. Brickbat Jun 2013 #13

Anyone can be anything on the internet, Quantess Jun 2013 #33

whoops how did I mess that up? I meant Quantess Jun 2013 #46

Let's rephrase my argument Quantess Jun 2013 #48

I am not confident that you are are a woman with a daughter, as you claim. Quantess Jun 2013 #49

i'm not. just because a man is dressed as a woman doesn't mean he gets to come in the HiPointDem Jun 2013 #20

Make all the restrooms unisex and that'd help. uppityperson Jun 2013 #23

unisex bathrooms = one room with one stall & one sink. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #27

Nope. Unisex= multiple stalls and sinks. uppityperson Jun 2013 #30

i don't want to use a bathroom with men, and that's what you're suggesting. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #57

Do you have a 2 bathroom house, in case a family member invites a male home? uppityperson Jun 2013 #81

i don't have to be in the bathroom at the same time with men at my house, or in public HiPointDem Jun 2013 #82

Lots of words but you did not answer my question. uppityperson Jun 2013 #83

i did, actually. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #84

Do you have a 2 bathroom house, 1 for men, 1 for women? Eapecially unrelated m/w? uppityperson Jun 2013 #85

my answer was: your question is irrelevant; bathrooms in private homes are not used HiPointDem Jun 2013 #86

I'd prefer the urinals be in a separate area...but other than that stalls lock. alphafemale Jun 2013 #65

Exactly. Stalls for all uses and otherwise meh uppityperson Jun 2013 #78

So some dude can reach under or look over the top of my stall? bunnies Jun 2013 #116

so can some woman. OMG, getting a lesbian looking an lusting after you and uppityperson Jun 2013 #117

LOL! HappyMe Jun 2013 #119

Exactly. thank you. eom uppityperson Jun 2013 #123

Get a grip. bunnies Jun 2013 #122

And, a quick google gives me these hits on lesbians raping other women... uppityperson Jun 2013 #124

ANYONE of ANY gender doing this in ANY restroom for ANY gender is wrong. uppityperson Jun 2013 #2

don't use logic tk2kewl Jun 2013 #9

Exactly. HappyMe Jun 2013 #18

problem is, he was doing it surreptitiously. the only reason he was found out is that someone HiPointDem Jun 2013 #22

And a woman doing this would be ok to you. Oh. No, problem is that it was done. Period. And wtf? uppityperson Jun 2013 #26

i don't want to share the bathroom with men, whether wearing dresses & carrying cameras or not. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #32

What about a woman who was born male and transgendered? uppityperson Jun 2013 #79

if they are transgendered and no longer have a penis. No problem. If they are still transitioning KittyWampus Jun 2013 #115

What? If no penis, ok, if penis, not? What? What else would you do in a woman's toilet but sit on uppityperson Jun 2013 #118

And they knew he was a man, how? FloridaJudy Jun 2013 #127

Exactly MichaelMcGuire Jun 2013 #99

I would say anyone with a penis should use the men's room. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #3

I don't agree. Whisp Jun 2013 #21

i do. i don't care what she 'feels like'. putting on a dress doesn't make you a woman. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #24

wooooosh Whisp Jun 2013 #25

woosh yourself. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #34

Good lord. So should being lesbian also bar you since you "the gays"will be checking you out? uppityperson Jun 2013 #28

good lord yourself. i don't want to share a public bathroom with men, whether they're checking me HiPointDem Jun 2013 #36

That's not the currently accepted opinion marshall Jun 2013 #44

'currently accepted opinion' of who? i'd suggest that an overwhelming majority of people HiPointDem Jun 2013 #58

Being transgender is far more than "just putting on a dress"... Humanist_Activist Jun 2013 #68

the story has nothing to do with transgenderness. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #69

The story has to do with pwnmom obsessing over the transgendered, again... Humanist_Activist Jun 2013 #70

that's her problem, not mine. the issue is both the camera and the fact that the man dressed HiPointDem Jun 2013 #72

This is a simplistic response to the complicated issue of gender identity el_bryanto Jun 2013 #51

he was not a transgender male, he was a man in drag who came to take perv photos. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #59

What does make a woman a woman? idwiyo Jun 2013 #56

Two X chromosomes? A Little Weird Jun 2013 #101

I suggest to read a little bit about genetic disorders and intersex. That might spare you from idwiyo Jun 2013 #103

I don't think asking a question A Little Weird Jun 2013 #105

OK, if that was an honest question I would suggest to check the link I posted below. idwiyo Jun 2013 #107

Thank you A Little Weird Jun 2013 #108

I apologise for being rude to you, it was uncalled for. This is a difficult and not well publicised idwiyo Jun 2013 #109

No problem A Little Weird Jun 2013 #110

Thank you! FloridaJudy Jun 2013 #129

I wish there was someone like Carl Sagan to explain it to the public on a national TV. Not just in idwiyo Jun 2013 #130

I spent over thirty years FloridaJudy Jun 2013 #131

Excellent post. HappyMe Jun 2013 #53

It's gender identity, not sexual identity Tien1985 Jun 2013 #39

You might want to read an article or two about intersex before making such ignorant statements. idwiyo Jun 2013 #90

That would be the sensible way to do it. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #128

This guy is a light weight badtoworse Jun 2013 #4

Ewww... Aerows Jun 2013 #14

That's the first time shawn703 Jun 2013 #16

Unbelievabl! I didn't know that. badtoworse Jun 2013 #47

OMG Aerows Jun 2013 #52

Chuck Berry was an inspiration to many REP Jun 2013 #29

Gross and disgusting! In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #64

This is an architecture problem, not a policy problem jberryhill Jun 2013 #5

This isn't about anyone's home. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #7

I realize that jberryhill Jun 2013 #11

Yes. Single person bathrooms are better. Unfortunately, architecture problems pnwmom Jun 2013 #12

All problems cost money to fix jberryhill Jun 2013 #15

Agreed. Brickbat Jun 2013 #17

Um, it's the fucking video camera that's the issue. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #8

Yup the video camera and the asshole using it are what's in question. Initech Jun 2013 #54

Well I don't see why it would be any more acceptable for a trans person to do it... sibelian Jun 2013 #10

what has this got to do with transgender ? JI7 Jun 2013 #19

Some transgender women still have male bodies. pnwmom Jun 2013 #31

i don't understand, this person dressed as a woman , women have different body types JI7 Jun 2013 #35

More important question: why are our transgender sisters and brothers mentioned in the same thread idwiyo Jun 2013 #100

that's effed up right there CreekDog Jun 2013 #126

What this guy was doing was wrong plain and simple Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #37

This isn't the first time... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #38

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. Hong Kong Cavalier Jun 2013 #50

Thanks for the tip. idwiyo Jun 2013 #55

I think this is the third time. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #60

People claim that this kind of thing isn't a concern for women and never happens. pnwmom Jun 2013 #76

YOU AND THE RIGHT WING ARE THE ONES OBSESSING ABOUT THIS. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #77

What if a woman did this, secretly videoed in a womans restroom? uppityperson Jun 2013 #80

oh gawd yes she is obsessed with anything that would fall under boilerbabe Jun 2013 #95

This is not a transgender issue it is a perv issue. MuseRider Jun 2013 #40

actually, it helps immensely that men aren't supposed to be in women's bathrooms, so if you see HiPointDem Jun 2013 #63

Better bathrooms that afford more privacy. onpatrol98 Jun 2013 #41

I think you really should take the time to talk enlightenment Jun 2013 #42

How about individual-sized, multiple unisex bathrooms. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #43

That would be my preference also, but it would be very expensive to convert all those bathrooms. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #75

Very cheap and easy solution - don't use public restrooms and spare the rest of us from idwiyo Jun 2013 #106

Shouldn't we be talking about how do we keep sexual predators out of restrooms? idwiyo Jun 2013 #45

since most are men, keeping men out of women's restrooms would be a good start. I DO like the HiPointDem Jun 2013 #62

Just a question? Where do the intersexed fit in your binary and fixed world... Humanist_Activist Jun 2013 #67

since 'intersex' is a catch-all category for a bunch of not necessarily related things, nowhere & HiPointDem Jun 2013 #71

So what is your solution, banning all those who don't conform to gender stereotypes from using... Humanist_Activist Jun 2013 #121

So, you don't want to share restroom with sexual predator. Neither do I. Regardless of their gender. idwiyo Jun 2013 #87

the fact is, men are way more likely to be predators than women, sexual and otherwise. i don't HiPointDem Jun 2013 #88

Who told you that you have to share a gender segregated restroom with a man? idwiyo Jun 2013 #91

posters at du. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #94

Can you please provide a specific example? I can't find one in this thread. idwiyo Jun 2013 #96

as you have been uniformly nasty to me in every exchange over a long period of time, i have HiPointDem Jun 2013 #98

You are welcome to do as you are pleased. I was nothing but polite to you in is thread idwiyo Jun 2013 #104

The man in the article is a man wearing women's clothing. pnwmom Jun 2013 #74

Why did you bring transgender into this discussion? idwiyo Jun 2013 #89

How do we keep bigots out of bathrooms, bothering innocent trans women. Hmmm. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #61

+1. idwiyo Jun 2013 #92

I would like to point out that your transphobia and obsession with bathrooms is disconcerting... Humanist_Activist Jun 2013 #66

I'm a feminist who thinks that women should be able to have some privacy pnwmom Jun 2013 #73

Why did you bring transgender into this discussion? idwiyo Jun 2013 #93

Because males who should be barred from ladies' restrooms pnwmom Jun 2013 #97

Easy. How about YOU assume that EVERYONE is a sexual predator and stop using public restrooms. idwiyo Jun 2013 #102

who are you? what makes you think your hangups should dictate what bathroom people use? CreekDog Jun 2013 #113

Thank you. Exactly. nt Lex Jun 2013 #125

You must spend an extremely large amount of time in public restrooms, Jamastiene Jun 2013 #111

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instead of trying to change bathrooms in the entire country, deal with your own issues CreekDog Jun 2013 #114

how do we keep bigots out of public restrooms when they pretend to be concerned feminists? LanternWaste Jun 2013 #120