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graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
2. Disagree.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 05:11 AM
Jun 2013

I use EZ pass when I drive.
I use credit cards for everything to purchase anything
I use supermarket discount card

They already know I purchase Charmin with Aloe.

There is nothing they don't already know.

So it doesn't consume me to worry about any of the above.

I do know that 3000 REAL people died because of terrorists killing them on 9-11.
They actually were real people and they died.
At the hands of bad people.

I know I myself would rather be safe than sorry.

As Ben Franklin said "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".

And wiretapping has been done forever.
Those old enough can recall, Bobby and Jack Kennedy wiretapped Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (YES they did).

If one sees something suspicious, I know, I myself will report it.
The life I save might just be mine or my families.
Why wouldn't I want to keep them safe?

As Franklin said "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".

So these things don't bother me.

And as Kristofferson wrote "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose".
And as he constantly explained, that meant, if one is absolutely free, then one howls at the moon on the beach, for what
they gave up because the people they wanted to be with are not there. Sorry, I don't want freedom like that.

BY THE WAY
YOU are writing on an international PUBLIC board telling your view on freedom.

excuse me, but you are writing what you opinion is.

That means you have NOT given up one right whatsoever.

And I myself am free to not follow any single word Ron or Rand Paul or the dreaded Oathkeepers say.
Why in the world would I want to? (I think the oathkeepers are the worst of the tea party groups, but that is my opinion and because I am free, I can say that).
BTW, why are the Oath Keepers a tax free group?
They are part and parcel of the unofficial Ron Paul / Rand Paul organization. I consider this group to be one of the most dangerous groups in the nation.

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Organizational history [edit]
The Oath Keepers were founded on March 2009 by Stewart Rhodes and incorporated in Las Vegas, Nevada as a non-profit corporation.[3][4] Rhodes is a Yale Law School graduate, a former US Army paratrooper, and a former staffer of Congressman Ron Paul.[5] The Oath Keepers as a group have grown to include chapters in many states across America.[6]

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I think we are finally losing Tien1985 Jun 2013 #1
Disagree. graham4anything Jun 2013 #2
Graham, YOU are what is wrong with America. Atman Jun 2013 #3
and YOU are FREE to say that. So what freedom have you lost? NONE. graham4anything Jun 2013 #4
What do the Paul idiots, or Trayvon Martin have to with anything? Atman Jun 2013 #5
3000 of my fellow people died on 9-11. Manufactured? I don't believe in bogus conspiracy theories. graham4anything Jun 2013 #14
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize they were YOUR people. EOTE Jun 2013 #21
I haven't lost any right. I still buy Charmin with aloe and pay for it with a credit card. graham4anything Jun 2013 #34
"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose" sibelian Jun 2013 #45
The songwriter has specifically stated what his meaning was. I agree with his own words graham4anything Jun 2013 #48
"they already know everything, therefore, it is nothing new" - plain falsehood sibelian Jun 2013 #50
No, that is SPECIFIC to what Kristofferson wrote the song about. SPECIFIC graham4anything Jun 2013 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #52
Sure, that pesky little 4th amendment wasn't doing anything anyway. EOTE Jun 2013 #57
What right have you lost that you had 1, 2, 5, 10 years ago? nt graham4anything Jun 2013 #58
That's right, once a certain amount of time has passed, we should stop caring about lost rights. EOTE Jun 2013 #59
The reasonable right to privacy davekriss Jun 2013 #62
3000 < * 100:1 Paulie Jun 2013 #24
9,878 of your fellow people were senselessly killed in 2011 by magical thyme Jun 2013 #40
We have lost our right to privacy. dkf Jun 2013 #7
Precisely Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #37
Exactly Aerows Jun 2013 #38
Problem for most of us is treestar Jun 2013 #44
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Dreamer Tatum Jun 2013 #63
at the risk of overstatement: + a billion cali Jun 2013 #8
You can smell Graham's posts without even reading the byline. Atman Jun 2013 #13
I've said the exact same thing. EOTE Jun 2013 #10
sheeple Locrian Jun 2013 #12
he seems like someone wanting to mock obama supporters/dem party loyalists by behaving like the boilerbabe Jun 2013 #20
I called it back in January Fumesucker Jun 2013 #22
Then it's fairly shitty performance art. EOTE Jun 2013 #23
Fairly? Fumesucker Jun 2013 #25
I think he's genuine. sibelian Jun 2013 #46
Dr. Franklin also said Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #6
He was talking about doing ALL one can to protect the nation from terrorists and coup'd'etats graham4anything Jun 2013 #15
You can't protect ANYONE from terrorism. sibelian Jun 2013 #47
One could stop 100% of all gun crimes in the streets by individuals that aren't law enforcement. graham4anything Jun 2013 #49
Terrorism has nothing to do with gun crime. sibelian Jun 2013 #53
tell that to Dr. Tiller. and all the school shootings graham4anything Jun 2013 #54
I must disagree with your interpretation of Franklin's words Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #55
Then why did he say "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?" graham4anything Jun 2013 #56
You have stated it so eloquently.... Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #60
Ick. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #9
I cannot believe that this website would allow a libertarian such as yourself to host Earth_First Jun 2013 #11
This is AD HOMINEM and as you know I am NOT a fan of 3rd parties, Ron/Rand libertarians or JillStein graham4anything Jun 2013 #16
No, just their policies... n/t Earth_First Jun 2013 #17
No, that is NOT true. They are against the Obama adminstration. I am 100% FOR anything he does. graham4anything Jun 2013 #18
He's for deportation of the parents of minor US citizens Paulie Jun 2013 #28
Rand Paul will not get you what you want, niether will Michelle Bachmann or Jill Stein. graham4anything Jun 2013 #30
Don't change the subject. Paulie Jun 2013 #35
99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% graham4anything Jun 2013 #39
At least half your posts are nothing but pure Ad Hom Fumesucker Jun 2013 #26
It's nothing like an "AD HOMINEM". sibelian Jun 2013 #42
I can't believe there are people here who don't know you will support the President on anything. hughee99 Jun 2013 #61
These are positions you have to adopt in order to convince yourself that everything's OK. sibelian Jun 2013 #41
My not intellectual response 90-percent Jun 2013 #19
Yep zeemike Jun 2013 #31
FDR should have entered WW2 years early. It caused millions to die before he entered. graham4anything Jun 2013 #32
This is not a time of peace zeemike Jun 2013 #27
This thread is full of juvenile trash talk. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. randome Jun 2013 #29
We'll never get back the rights that are being taken from us...Obama is forestpath Jun 2013 #33
The slope is way more than slippery and the situation is way worse than Stasi. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #36
Verizon to offer "Certified Patriot Plan". You are checked for security by government and... Safetykitten Jun 2013 #43
Omg I'm so gullible. i went and googled it darkangel218 Jun 2013 #64
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