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In reply to the discussion: What else do they want to know? When will it end? [View all]sibelian
(7,804 posts)41. These are positions you have to adopt in order to convince yourself that everything's OK.
What you don't appear to understand is that with every increase in the availability of your personal information to people whose actions you can't affect the likelihood increases that they will use that information for purposes that are not in your interests just because there's MORE of them.
Do you believe the rise in identity theft is coincidental?
You stop Governments from taking your freedoms away by denying them the tools to do so at the outset, not at some indeterminate time in the future when it seems convincing that they might be in danger.
When it comes to governments, the only valid approach is to assume at all times that one's freedoms are always in danger.
Freedom isn't an emotional reaction to a flag, it's a measure of your ability to conduct your affairs as you see fit without interference.
The recording of information about you, graham, without your being able to affect what happens to that information, is interference. This position is not a means to an end but an end in itself.
Your information isn't theirs. They have decided it is.
You are too frightened to stop them.
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3000 of my fellow people died on 9-11. Manufactured? I don't believe in bogus conspiracy theories.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#14
I haven't lost any right. I still buy Charmin with aloe and pay for it with a credit card.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#34
The songwriter has specifically stated what his meaning was. I agree with his own words
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#48
"they already know everything, therefore, it is nothing new" - plain falsehood
sibelian
Jun 2013
#50
No, that is SPECIFIC to what Kristofferson wrote the song about. SPECIFIC
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#51
That's right, once a certain amount of time has passed, we should stop caring about lost rights.
EOTE
Jun 2013
#59
he seems like someone wanting to mock obama supporters/dem party loyalists by behaving like the
boilerbabe
Jun 2013
#20
He was talking about doing ALL one can to protect the nation from terrorists and coup'd'etats
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#15
One could stop 100% of all gun crimes in the streets by individuals that aren't law enforcement.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#49
I cannot believe that this website would allow a libertarian such as yourself to host
Earth_First
Jun 2013
#11
This is AD HOMINEM and as you know I am NOT a fan of 3rd parties, Ron/Rand libertarians or JillStein
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#16
No, that is NOT true. They are against the Obama adminstration. I am 100% FOR anything he does.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#18
Rand Paul will not get you what you want, niether will Michelle Bachmann or Jill Stein.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#30
I can't believe there are people here who don't know you will support the President on anything.
hughee99
Jun 2013
#61
These are positions you have to adopt in order to convince yourself that everything's OK.
sibelian
Jun 2013
#41
FDR should have entered WW2 years early. It caused millions to die before he entered.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#32
This thread is full of juvenile trash talk. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
randome
Jun 2013
#29
The slope is way more than slippery and the situation is way worse than Stasi.
Smarmie Doofus
Jun 2013
#36
Verizon to offer "Certified Patriot Plan". You are checked for security by government and...
Safetykitten
Jun 2013
#43