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81. The govenment takes our phone calls and prosecutes

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Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:15 AM

Jun 2013

Bradley Manning for releasing theirs. This bullshit has got to stop.

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Woke up this morning to find out the Government has my phone records... [View all] trumad Jun 2013 OP

We incrementally find ways to justify this too Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #1

Don't worry. be happy. it's a democratic administration so cali Jun 2013 #2

Good point. We are democrats and must suport our president. In fact... leeroysphitz Jun 2013 #3

splendid idea, sport! cali Jun 2013 #6

I would too but I'm Verizon so I'm cool! East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #67

Should you be worried? blueamy66 Jun 2013 #4

My sister and I used to talk badly about Newt Gingrich on purpose... Phentex Jun 2013 #7

Is this a serious post? Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #8

no, it's not a serious post blueamy66 Jun 2013 #123

On the other hand... Bonobo Jun 2013 #9

What you just described is your Terrorism Quotient (TQ), goes with IQ into your permanent record leveymg Jun 2013 #51

Of course. It is what computers do well. Bonobo Jun 2013 #82

My attitude to this is "I know that you know that I know about you," so move on to real terrorists leveymg Jun 2013 #107

But then there are the conversations that they do mark you for additional scrutiny Savannahmann Jun 2013 #15

Awww the old if you don't have anything to hide meme... trumad Jun 2013 #18

Anyone who has nothing to hide should be suspect Generic Other Jun 2013 #27

I hear people who commit violent crimes sometimes shower to wash away evidence. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #46

I'll be showering later on today dlwickham Jun 2013 #126

I usually sneak in with ice water and make my hubby scream Generic Other Jun 2013 #132

actually I won't be showering dlwickham Jun 2013 #134

Hope you get that fixed soon! Generic Other Jun 2013 #137

Who cares? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #55

^^^This^^^ riqster Jun 2013 #87

Oooh, that hurt blueamy66 Jun 2013 #138

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about, right? Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #60

I just threw up. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #72

why?? blueamy66 Jun 2013 #124

My thoughts exactly HockeyMom Jun 2013 #78

Do you know everyone your family members call? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #106

Don't know about you. MynameisBlarney Jun 2013 #83

a recipe for fascism temmer Jun 2013 #95

And then there's the people who have phone sex with their boyfriends/girlfriends. Neoma Jun 2013 #101

And how much do you think it costs to cast a human glance at all those records? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #103

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #112

Naive yes marions ghost Jun 2013 #114

yeesh fishwax Jun 2013 #121

Well, of course we shouldn't care. We were just being hysterical when we got all excited back when sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #122

Well, let's play that out :) Babel_17 Jun 2013 #127

Notes from The Underground: The Merry Tipster Generic Other Jun 2013 #133

yours is a natural reaction, blueamy66 Skittles Jun 2013 #130

AND...they know where you live, where you work, what you eat, where you eat...etc. etc. etc. aristocles Jun 2013 #5

They told us about it before. zeemike Jun 2013 #71

They are not recording conversations. The records include only phone numbers. randome Jun 2013 #10

But now they know where you live! ucrdem Jun 2013 #11

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #41

And location. Tracking a persons movements can tell you a lot. dkf Jun 2013 #31

Yeah, well, they could look me up in the phone book, too. randome Jun 2013 #32

WaPo: Order reissued routinely every 90 days since 2006 dkf Jun 2013 #33

Yeah, there is that. You're right, maybe they intend to renew it. randome Jun 2013 #35

"Oh look, Agent Smith. Dave McGarrety is apparently having an affair with Linda from Accounts" alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #44

Telephone metadata and what it can tell the authorities about you dkf Jun 2013 #48

Well, yes, of course...I was joking alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #64

If they can get all the data on you by accessing a phone number how sure are you it won't be abused? dkf Jun 2013 #70

I'm not "sure" alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #109

Whew marions ghost Jun 2013 #117

No, I don't have "high trust" alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #125

Revisions to "minimization" (storage) rules allow NSA to hold onto your data essentially forever. leveymg Jun 2013 #84

And they are not interested in the OP's conversations treestar Jun 2013 #53

They have metadata not conversation data Shivering Jemmy Jun 2013 #12

surprised? piratefish08 Jun 2013 #13

J. Edgar Hoover's wet dream. Anybody remember J. Edgar here? xtraxritical Jun 2013 #92

Given all the phone companies except Qwest served us up for surveillance purposes under Bush* hlthe2b Jun 2013 #14

I always used to frequently call conservative friends, telling them... Pholus Jun 2013 #16

The funny thingy is- everyone (not me) posts their entire life on facebook, which NEVER was private graham4anything Jun 2013 #17

Everyone has Facebook---uhh..bullshit... trumad Jun 2013 #19

Two things. 1. Not everyone posts on FB. 2. 90% of my profile is inaccurate. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #52

Puleeeze. graham4anything Jun 2013 #59

i feel sorry for you, it must be terrible to be so frightened of the outside world hobbit709 Jun 2013 #63

Why does the NRA exist? Guess your post here should be directed at 100% of every gun owner graham4anything Jun 2013 #66

Why do you have this fixation about the NRA? hobbit709 Jun 2013 #69

Precisely Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #75

You're kidding, right? RevStPatrick Jun 2013 #20

Come on--- trumad Jun 2013 #21

Warentless wiretapping and metadata collection are two different things tridim Jun 2013 #26

Of course... and no duh trumad Jun 2013 #37

You are right - this is totally blatant; We-don't-care-that-you-know-it. What's left of the Bill of byeya Jun 2013 #50

That's the old stuff RandiFan1290 Jun 2013 #22

Finally, a true scandal... kentuck Jun 2013 #23

This particular court order does not cover eavesdropping. Only phone numbers, date/times. randome Jun 2013 #24

Can you prove that this is the only court order? Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #25

Of course I can't prove other court orders don't exist. randome Jun 2013 #28

Trust is gone Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #30

it won't burnodo Jun 2013 #29

From what I read Capobvious Jun 2013 #34

BUT--- that can easily lead to listening in. trumad Jun 2013 #38

So? Aerows Jun 2013 #43

If that's what you want to believe, sure. Myrina Jun 2013 #74

wow the people making excuses for this are unbelievable! boilerbabe Jun 2013 #36

They are hypocrites and wouldn't be defending this if it were done by a repug morningfog Jun 2013 #104

With just phone records Aerows Jun 2013 #39

What if you belong to a political party...what if you want some pot, what if you ....and on and on,, trumad Jun 2013 #42

Precisely Aerows Jun 2013 #45

If the gov't is keeping such good phone records on me Generic Other Jun 2013 #40

LOL wish I could rec your response. n/t DebJ Jun 2013 #76

It's ok. A Democrat is president. Besides, if you have nothing to hide, then why worry? Safetykitten Jun 2013 #47

Yes, because we trust Obama to have this kind of power, Seeking Serenity Jun 2013 #56

might wanna Capobvious Jun 2013 #49

1st reasonable post! handmade34 Jun 2013 #54

Yeh! Can you tell us how to do that? Other than a world revolution? Zorra Jun 2013 #65

I'll draft a stern letter for my Congressman, right now. leveymg Jun 2013 #77

The National Security Agency, which is part of the Department of Defense, serves at the pleasure Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #99

James Bamford has been telling us about this since 2002 Liberal In Texas Jun 2013 #57

And here is the list of words they are looking for. So be careful of their use. go west young man Jun 2013 #94

I assumed they were listening anyways....we all should be expecting this at all times. cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #58

Woke up this morning... Atman Jun 2013 #61

No doubt they were doing relationship/calling maps for the Tsarnaev brothers JCMach1 Jun 2013 #62

Nah. They were fully occupied with more important eavesdropping, Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #88

don't rule out all of the above JCMach1 Jun 2013 #110

For the minority of us who do give a shit, this is still not a surprise. This is the corporations Dustlawyer Jun 2013 #68

It's ok - the Obama Admin took them. And we know they're on our side. Myrina Jun 2013 #73

A few questions: panader0 Jun 2013 #79

It did begin under Bush. There may be other court orders relating to other carriers. randome Jun 2013 #85

A private hacker with the planet's largest data center might be able to do the same thing DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #113

Google? fleabiscuit Jun 2013 #80

The govenment takes our phone calls and prosecutes JEB Jun 2013 #81

Welcome to 2005. The data mining program never went away, and never geek tragedy Jun 2013 #86

Sounds bad but people are so naive think_critically Jun 2013 #89

Agreed - disgusting! dbackjon Jun 2013 #90

Many clueless people are in "I have nothing to hide" mode. They miss the big picture. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #91

I woke up this morning and found out that The Guardian is a right wing newspaper. QC Jun 2013 #93

The good news is ctsnowman Jun 2013 #96

You do know they were forced to right? William769 Jun 2013 #97

The People get the government that they elect. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #98

Simply quit carrying a cell phone. JohnnyRingo Jun 2013 #100

Same here. JoeyT Jun 2013 #102

This is nothing new! peace13 Jun 2013 #105

We'd better stop the false advertisijng about being "the land of the free and home of the brave". Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #108

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #111

They need to pay RainDog Jun 2013 #115

The government is not "listening" it is recording the arthritisR_US Jun 2013 #116

We are dolphins in a sea full of tuna. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #118

This is the most apt comparison I've seen.... truebrit71 Jun 2013 #119

Excellent analogy (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2013 #129

Thank you. nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #139

yep, it's outrageous ... and pretty unsurprising given the last 12 years fishwax Jun 2013 #120

"watch what you say on your cell phones because the Government is listening" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #128

Isn't this old news? Quantess Jun 2013 #131

Would have thunk you would have whistler162 Jun 2013 #135

Been following that advise for YEARS now nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #136

I kind of just assumed they are doing this with all telecommunications since the "Patriot" Act eShirl Jun 2013 #140