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Raine1967

(11,700 posts)
16. This is my neighborhood; I know the owner.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:04 AM
Jun 2013

and this is a good move.

Del Ray is a wonderful neighborhood, but the stroller brigade is taking over.

We are actually going there tonite!

Most of this brewhaha started after our local patch published that 'Mango Mike' is opening up an adults only sushi/saki bar. The comments ended making national news... and I admit I was a part of the conversation. Check out a few (or get lost in the comments)

We have neighbors with children and they welcome a place where they can go, leave thier kids home with a sitter and enjoy a romantic evening without children.

Here are some snippets from the comments:

You think it's "asinine" to object to excluding entire groups of people based on conditions of birth? Wow. I bet you're a big fan of apartheid.

I won't be eating there and I'm not going to frequent Pork Barrel or Holy Cow any longer. It's ironic how happy they were to take my money for kids meals at Pork Barrel but now my money isn't good enough for fish.
and responses to this particular post:

WOW! Not only do we have a winner, but HUGE bonus points for completely trivializing apartheid!!! Do you think that comparison might be just a little bit over the top??? Are people who still take their kids to Holy Cow "sellouts" - like black artists who performed at Sun City? Are the "well behaved teens" that another commenter suggested might be admitted to the Sushi place like Asians and Mulattoes, who had greater rights than blacks (but fewer than whites) under the "other" apartheid? Is Los Tios a "shantytown"? What do you make of black South Africans who lived through the "other" apartheid --- only to repeat history by opening age-restricted restaurants in South Africa??? (possibly a form of Stockholm Sundrome?)

In any event, you are very brave to speak out against this injustice, knowing full well that Mango Mike will likely send his secret police to haul you off to his prison on Duke Street. You'll be offered release after a few years if you renounce your views, but I pray you stay strong. These are dangerous days, but maybe one day Del Ray will be united by a Rugby team comprised of both under-21 and over-21 players.


Yes, having an adults-only establishment is EXACTLY like apartheid. They're practically the same thing, what with the arrests and secret prisons and beatings and stealing of land.

I also have to wonder how often you actually went to Pork Barrel or Holy Cow. We went every Sunday during football season, And your money IS good enough for fish, so long as you leave the kids at home. Some of us are willing to pay for that privilege. Our money will make up for yours.

I think "family-friendly" Del Ray could use a little offending. Perhaps it would remind the breeders that there are plenty of non-breeders here as well, and we spend our money and don't leave messes like the kids do, and don't run around hollering. We have rights to - the right to not have to have our meals and conversations interrupted by momma's little darlin's.


but this was my favorite:
If they operate the sushi bar like they operate the other two places, I am sure you can sit in Pork Barrel and order sushi. As an adult that's had more than my share of good meals interrupted by "well-behaved" kids yelling or playing their video games, I am happy that there is one (count 'em - 1) place in Del Ray where I can eat in peace.

The world doesn't revolve around you breeders and your spawn. I know they are the most precious things in your lives, but you'll have to understand that not everyone enjoys your level of enthusiasm for your little Einsteins, and having ONE place in the area where the rest of us can eat around fellow adults is not too much to ask.


later on they compared the sushi restaurant to JIM CROWE era. I shit you not.

I wrote:

I've been waiting for this to open, it sounds like it will be a nice intimate place for date nights! I like it!

For those that seem insulted about not being able to bring their children into the actual restaurant, I wouldn't be surprised if they have the system set in place where you can actually have a holy cow burger -- WHILE in Pork Barrel. There is nothing wrong with having a place that is a kid free place.

Yes Del Ray is a family friendly area, but some people might want to go to a place every now and then without children. It really shouldn't be so controversial. Del Ray Pizza is supposed to have a party room for kids birthdays etc, Los Tios is very family friendly as well, as are pretty much every place on the Avenue.

Like I said, it will be nice to have a date night place here in Del Ray. Each one of Mango's restaurants serves a slightly different clientele, and I like that.
And Mike responded:


RK,
Your are correct.

Intimate and the perfect place for some post sushi, sake spawning.






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I'm outraged, I tell you! MineralMan Jun 2013 #1
HA! Check out my post below... Raine1967 Jun 2013 #17
Can we have restaurants that ban anyone over 60 MattBaggins Jun 2013 #82
I have no problem with that sharp_stick Jun 2013 #2
That still doesn't excuse parents who let their kids act like they're at Happyland inside the place. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #5
No but it should sharp_stick Jun 2013 #15
I don't have a problem with this. HappyMe Jun 2013 #3
I can see banning kids under 12 or so, but 18? That seems ridiculous. cali Jun 2013 #4
A good way to piss off all of those Swamp Lover Jun 2013 #7
Especially if the kids want to hear stories about stuff that happened before they were born. DetlefK Jun 2013 #13
DUZY! flying rabbit Jun 2013 #96
I'd make it 23. Keep the college students out, too. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2013 #8
You'd have to mark out 30 year olds too if you hate college students so much. Neoma Jun 2013 #40
I'm in higher ed. It was just a joke. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2013 #56
Hey wait! Bluzmann57 Jun 2013 #54
It'll be okay, there are how many diners in the country? snooper2 Jun 2013 #14
Teenagers can be disruptive monsters in public. Especially if their parents let them be kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #42
Ever try to serve a group of 10 17-year olds before (or after) prom? Myrina Jun 2013 #46
not before or after prom but I have served groups of teenagers cali Jun 2013 #51
Lucky you. Myrina Jun 2013 #52
Except to those of us LWolf Jun 2013 #97
If kids between 12 and 18 don't know how to act in public, the parents have failed parenthood appleannie1 Jun 2013 #6
Maybe the good parents need a break for the other parent's poorly raised kids? Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #10
I think up to 18 is a bit extreme... cynatnite Jun 2013 #9
Open a restaurant. nt bike man Jun 2013 #27
I'm a rotten cook. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #28
Well, here's a business opportunity for you: kentauros Jun 2013 #31
Maybe you ought to give the same advice to everyone else who weighed in on the subject. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #32
You did say you were a rotten cook. kentauros Jun 2013 #37
Which is why I won't open a restaurant and don't want to open a restaurant... cynatnite Jun 2013 #41
Okay, no prob :) kentauros Jun 2013 #44
Oh restaraunt work too good for you, eh? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2013 #84
You don't have to cook ..... oldhippie Jun 2013 #83
Can we make this an international law? Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #11
Sounds good to me. sibelian Jun 2013 #12
This is my neighborhood; I know the owner. Raine1967 Jun 2013 #16
"The world doesn't revolve around you breeders and your spawn." bunnies Jun 2013 #39
Full disclosure: Raine1967 Jun 2013 #55
lmao!! bunnies Jun 2013 #58
My niece and nephews actually call me Aunt Bunny... Raine1967 Jun 2013 #74
... do I know you and Mr Raine? REP Jun 2013 #69
It's their business, their call. It's funny how outraged parents take to Yelp! geek tragedy Jun 2013 #18
I have kids and have absolutely NO problem with this. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #19
Well, would you say the same thing if ....... oldhippie Jun 2013 #85
Yeah, being under 18 is just like not being white mindwalker_i Jun 2013 #101
It was for me jberryhill Jun 2013 #105
That's what I thought .... oldhippie Jun 2013 #108
Remind me how America is a child-friendly country again JCMach1 Jun 2013 #20
Are you serious? tammywammy Jun 2013 #22
I am a child-UnFriendly adult American. kentauros Jun 2013 #23
I saw one saying backscatter712 Jun 2013 #38
Hmmm, that would be interesting locally. kentauros Jun 2013 #45
And one from Greenwich Village Jim Lane Jun 2013 #89
Disney bans kids from one of its restaurants. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #24
If you remember pleasure Island in Orlando, Disney banned kids from an entire theme park essentially stevenleser Jun 2013 #29
I am just saying there are cultures where this would result in a boycott by the people, or gov. JCMach1 Jun 2013 #119
Oh please. Raine1967 Jun 2013 #25
They can still run amok at Los Tios and Dairy Godmother and... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #70
Hello Neighbor! Raine1967 Jun 2013 #73
Well, I'm a neighbor in spirit right now... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #75
I moved here 3 years ago -- I've learned that this area has changed A LOT. Raine1967 Jun 2013 #79
You bet! WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #87
Man, strollers just piss me off mindwalker_i Jun 2013 #103
We'd be a lot more accepting of children in public spaces if their parents would bother to teach kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #43
Indeed! kentauros Jun 2013 #49
This is true. HappyMe Jun 2013 #50
yes, we were taught also how to behave properly ThomThom Jun 2013 #59
This a 100 times ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #63
OMG kestrel Skittles Jun 2013 #71
Or at the very least, the embarrassment of a stern public dressing-down. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #72
one LOOK from my dad was enough to keep us in line Skittles Jun 2013 #92
My dad never in his life had to even give me "that look". kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #100
you were a USAF brat, kestrel? Skittles Jun 2013 #107
Yep. Lived in Nevada, Texas, Mississippi, California, Utah, Japan, New York, Colorado, Utah again, kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #109
my dad married a Brit Skittles Jun 2013 #111
Your dad must have SAC, what with those flat, unscenic places. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #112
yup, he was SAC Skittles Jun 2013 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #116
Oh? Where all were you stationed? kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #117
mostly Bergstrom Skittles Jun 2013 #118
Yep. You got that one right. roamer65 Jun 2013 #80
This one restaurant is all of America REP Jun 2013 #67
Did I miss the memo? oldhippie Jun 2013 #86
There's all kinds of child friendly bars too... erm uh oh hmmm L0oniX Jun 2013 #95
There should be mindwalker_i Jun 2013 #104
And this alleged appellation's origin is where? WinkyDink Jun 2013 #99
One of my favorite local Italian places has a standard line... Xithras Jun 2013 #21
Oh, I love this. "We expect all guests to be mature enough to eat from our standard menu." Nay Jun 2013 #26
Rec this response. nt bike man Jun 2013 #30
It's portion size also HockeyMom Jun 2013 #33
My teen daughter and I split the portion xmas74 Jun 2013 #88
Another thing I agree with ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #64
Yup. Charge full price, by the nose, and that will take care of the babies. lindysalsagal Jun 2013 #113
I don't understand the outrage. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #34
I love this! bunnies Jun 2013 #35
but NBC "news" says its a HIP neighborhood olddots Jun 2013 #36
There is one other comforting thought about them: kentauros Jun 2013 #53
?? Raine1967 Jun 2013 #76
More nice restaurants should do this. cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #47
I have two children under 8 and I don't have a problem with this at all. hughee99 Jun 2013 #48
so do the customers without kids ThomThom Jun 2013 #57
I got two tots under six and I'm cool with this AngryAmish Jun 2013 #60
Sounds fine to me CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #61
if we could get only adults to act civil and mature in public too, I'd start going out to eat again LanternWaste Jun 2013 #62
My favorite lunch spot introduced an "unofficial" kid free section ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #65
lol Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #102
No problem with this. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #66
All restaurants here Go Vols Jun 2013 #68
Wish I had a few around my area. roamer65 Jun 2013 #77
So many bad jokes can be made here, ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #78
I took I lady and her two small children to a sushi restaurant and we ruined it for everybody. Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #81
Cool RedCappedBandit Jun 2013 #90
I wish more restaurants would ban kids under 18. Apophis Jun 2013 #91
I don't have a problem with this... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #93
K & R L0oniX Jun 2013 #94
Guess what, nay-sayers? We have ENTIRE "55-&-OVER" COMMUNITIES! Get over the umbrage here. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #98
19 year old arrested for giving sushi to 16 year old... jberryhill Jun 2013 #106
Was he required to register on the Food Offenders List? Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #110
I'll never forget: They entered with the kid screaming, I got up and left. lindysalsagal Jun 2013 #114
I will also go on the record as saying the absolute worst behavior I have ever seen JCMach1 Jun 2013 #120
Can we also have a selection of 18+ overseas flights? tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #121
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