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"White House Defends NSA Collection of Phone Records" villager Jun 2013 #1
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"White House Defends NSA Collection of Phone Records" AlbertCat Jun 2013 #58
It makes good sense to pay attention. Laelth Jun 2013 #67
Collecting all those numbers is so absurd as to be indefensible. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #118
There you go. Next week, it will be some other outrage. MineralMan Jun 2013 #2
If only the Administration quit giving reasons to be outraged. morningfog Jun 2013 #4
Ah. There you go, too. MineralMan Jun 2013 #12
Not surprised. None of the history makes it right, either. morningfog Jun 2013 #18
OK. I guess you'll need to start looking for MineralMan Jun 2013 #20
Or just raise awareness and accountability for the current president. morningfog Jun 2013 #23
OK. That's a good idea. There are many MineralMan Jun 2013 #25
If they don't they won't get my vote. Daemonaquila Jun 2013 #43
OK. MineralMan Jun 2013 #53
When our side pulls the same illegal crap as the other side AlbertCat Jun 2013 #60
You keep saying things like "illegal" and "warrantless". Can you elaborate, or are you too outraged? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #128
In other words, we're fucked no matter what. Webster Green Jun 2013 #84
Not at all. If the only thing you care about is whether cell phone call MineralMan Jun 2013 #92
Civil rights are not usually "way down on the list" Maedhros Jun 2013 #99
you're not replying to a liberal.. frylock Jun 2013 #103
And a former freeper at that Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #145
izzat right? frylock Jun 2013 #146
Just do a Google search of the poster's name Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #148
Here's the thing: MineralMan Jun 2013 #107
I'm a security professional. Maedhros Jun 2013 #113
Good for you. MineralMan Jun 2013 #114
Legal Maedhros Jun 2013 #117
That is true, of course. MineralMan Jun 2013 #121
I'm backing Elizabeth Warren. Seriously. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #125
They are not wrong where the law allows it treestar Jun 2013 #120
Well, you've just enlightenment Jun 2013 #21
We bother with elections for many issues. MineralMan Jun 2013 #24
MM, enlightenment Jun 2013 #123
Good point. It's been going on for seven years Jack Rabbit Jun 2013 #56
I don't want it to continue. I expect it to. MineralMan Jun 2013 #59
Oh, really? That's the first hint you've given on this threat that you're not OK with it Jack Rabbit Jun 2013 #61
Pitchforks and torches, eh. MineralMan Jun 2013 #62
Lots have written theaocp Jun 2013 #72
Thanks, I will. MineralMan Jun 2013 #76
If it violates the Fourth Amendment, it can be challenged in court treestar Jun 2013 #122
Dennis fucking Kucinich, that's who frylock Jun 2013 #102
OK. He ran. Did he win even a single primary? MineralMan Jun 2013 #112
that wasn't the question you asked.. frylock Jun 2013 #124
No, I asked about a candidate who had a chance to win the election. MineralMan Jun 2013 #126
and i quote.. frylock Jun 2013 #129
There must be a schedule somewhere: FSogol Jun 2013 #7
Could be. Although there's always something. MineralMan Jun 2013 #14
You forgot 6.... krispos42 Jun 2013 #41
lol awesome. BASIC flashbacks!! n/t yodermon Jun 2013 #136
I have no idea what you're talking about... krispos42 Jun 2013 #137
An Early programming language called "BASIC" Dragonfli Jun 2013 #147
You forgot the "again." Then it would be a perfect Reagan quote! villager Jun 2013 #91
Clever. I didn't forget it, though. MineralMan Jun 2013 #93
Ah, you had it mind anyway! villager Jun 2013 #97
I didn't say that, now did I. MineralMan Jun 2013 #100
Well you can take comfort in that it was very Reagan-esque reply! villager Jun 2013 #108
The length of time does not excuse it. morningfog Jun 2013 #3
the investigating committees of the house are lining up...... spanone Jun 2013 #6
Er...like no jobs, shit wages, no access to healthcare, no EFCA? leftstreet Jun 2013 #8
1-20-09 to today is 4 1/2 of those 7 years. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #9
Greater than half, for those not versed in division. nt Dreamer Tatum Jun 2013 #82
Defending the indefensible. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #10
They don't care, they are fans Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #28
Sadly, you are correct pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #86
to say nobody complained about this until Obama is a LIE.nt boilerbabe Jun 2013 #32
Quick! Take something that has happened continuously for 7 years and exonerate Bush on 6/6/13! Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #11
Unlike Bush they have warrants for the metadata now. n/t FSogol Jun 2013 #15
Yes, because that's just what the American citizen deserves. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #16
I have no problem with law enforcement getting warrants to collect info. FSogol Jun 2013 #17
Our system works on "probable cause." Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #22
Wrong... TommyCelt Jun 2013 #78
A warrant needs to describe the places to be searched Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #26
So sorry you don't care about the constitution. Daemonaquila Jun 2013 #48
Continuity is no excuse for something he should have stopped Fearless Jun 2013 #13
We disidoro01 Jun 2013 #19
Just wondering. If you were GOP co. If you had nothing positive to offer...... wandy Jun 2013 #27
Clinton's WTO, NAFTA, MFN-China, H-1b visas were Bush Sr's idea markiv Jun 2013 #29
Nice try, but it's more like this: Proud Public Servant Jun 2013 #30
The only problem I EVER had with the Bush admin (on this) was the surveillance was "warrantless"... phleshdef Jun 2013 #31
My dog peed on the floor last week. Damn you, Obama! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #33
Yup. Another outrage widget from the usual suspects...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #34
And another "nothing to see here, move on" from the other usual suspects LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #50
He's the one Dragonfli Jun 2013 #64
Precisely. lpbk2713 Jun 2013 #35
I am so sick of these breaking (my word) stories of life long demo Jun 2013 #36
Amen. FSogol Jun 2013 #55
Best (or worst) one yet. Stumbled on this satire of 'It's all Obama's fault' yesterday: freshwest Jun 2013 #37
+++ Whisp Jun 2013 #45
+1 Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #47
I keep wondering laundry_queen Jun 2013 #38
many of obama's most ardent supporters weren't here during bush's reign of terror.. frylock Jun 2013 #119
And some of his detractors seem to forget the 8 years prior as well bhikkhu Jun 2013 #139
of course something that was started 7 years ago could be STOPPED nt msongs Jun 2013 #39
Oh, please. He's had 4.5 years to stop it and hasn't. Daemonaquila Jun 2013 #40
"Going Away"? Who cares? Were any laws broken? Why would he stop something that's legal? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #54
I'll be waiting for your outrage theaocp Jun 2013 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #101
I'm ever so glad he cancelled it. Oh....wait. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #42
Baaaaaaaaaah! Android3.14 Jun 2013 #44
Tides. krispos42 Jun 2013 #46
It's Obama's fault hip hop sucks based on republicans' logic. craigmatic Jun 2013 #49
Well, I've got this itch...(nt) KansDem Jun 2013 #51
It is possible to simultaneously NOT like that this is being done ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #52
That sums it up for me Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #57
The policy was wrong under Bush and it's wrong under Obama. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #63
the buck stops... G_j Jun 2013 #65
Quick! Take something that was a horrible violation of our privacy JoeyT Jun 2013 #66
Did you agree with the policy when BushCo ran it? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #68
It was wrong when BushCo did it because they were warrantless wiretaps. FSogol Jun 2013 #98
A warrant that covers everyone isn't really a warrant. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #111
So, they issued warrants to every individual who was spied on? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #116
I only blame Obama for the 4 1/2 years he has been continuously doing it Dragonfli Jun 2013 #69
+1 pam4water Jun 2013 #77
Lies and the lying liars that tell them pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #96
But but but but-- he has a D after his name LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #109
+2 LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #106
Since 2001 sense Jun 2013 #70
Obama could have put a stop to it. AndyA Jun 2013 #71
+1 pam4water Jun 2013 #75
Oh balls.... TommyCelt Jun 2013 #73
What is the point of this thread? pam4water Jun 2013 #74
I'm not as thin as I was seven years ago. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #80
We know, we know. It wasn't OK when Bush did it but IT'S OK WHEN OBAMA DOES IT. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #81
+1 pam4water Jun 2013 #88
Wow pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #83
+1 pam4water Jun 2013 #87
I'm pretty sure Michelle Obama is listening in on my phone calls. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #85
And while you're at the Olive Garden, your pit bull is reporting to NSA! randome Jun 2013 #90
Well naturally ... JoePhilly Jun 2013 #94
Breastfeeding and toilet training your child and eating fried chicken made with (banned word)... freshwest Jun 2013 #130
Apparently when it was wrong under Bush it's now ok under Obama... joeybee12 Jun 2013 #89
The point of electing Obama in 2008 was to end such abuses JVS Jun 2013 #95
unrec. Lame excuses for garbage policies. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #104
Sorry, you thought I liked it before. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #105
LOL. You think calling me a Democrat is an insult? FSogol Jun 2013 #133
Quick! Pretend that no one notices that more than half of that time it was happening under Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #110
The DEMOCRATIC Police State comes with milk! woo me with science Jun 2013 #143
Here: ProSense Jun 2013 #115
Thanks for that synopsis. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #127
Please repost as an OP. n/t FSogol Jun 2013 #131
We didn't elect a Democrat to CONTINUE Bush policies. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #132
Take it up with Congress. It became law in 2007. FSogol Jun 2013 #134
No reason for a misuse of the word "hysterical," either. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #135
I want to know what business it is of the government who and when I call someone? neverforget Jun 2013 #138
Frankly I find the invasion of privacy just voted on by the Supremes to be 100x worse ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #140
Yeah! Dive right in.. Be sure and give Cha Jun 2013 #141
I know! It's just like those priests molesting kids. woo me with science Jun 2013 #142
This is the best apologia you can do? woo me with science Jun 2013 #144
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