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Yup, this defining "National Security" as the interests of war criminals is way past it's due date. dougolat Jun 2013 #1
So, which of those things lead to the first and second world trade center attacks and geek tragedy Jun 2013 #2
First and second WTC attacks ? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #4
So, we should have an official policy of not doing anything to upset geek tragedy Jun 2013 #5
Liberal fantasy land Hissyspit Jun 2013 #6
What policies that antagonize radical Islamists would you maintain? geek tragedy Jun 2013 #7
Why are we involved in the business of other countries at all? Why did the US help to install sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #14
gee, how about drone strikes in Pakistan and other countries? cali Jun 2013 #17
I am fully aware of the US's history in the area geek tragedy Jun 2013 #33
YEP! That is why the "Terrorists" are so busy attacking Canada too! bvar22 Jun 2013 #65
You were saying? geek tragedy Jun 2013 #66
So you rationalize that we shouldnt "behave nicely" because terrorist would strike anyway? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #73
No, what I am saying is that a moral foreign policy and preventing geek tragedy Jun 2013 #74
While you may be correct that we cant know exactly why terrorists target us, rhett o rick Jun 2013 #75
We had done nothing bad to Saudi Arabia. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #78
Interesting that you use Saudi Arabia as an example. They were close family friends with the rhett o rick Jun 2013 #79
I'm sure their ultra-radical religous fanaticism had nothing to do with it. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #80
Well we have something to agree on then. It was all business IMHO. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #81
I was being sarcastic. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #82
Of course the idiots that actually did the terrorism were fanatics but those that trained rhett o rick Jun 2013 #84
Lol. We installed their oligarchy. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #101
Maybe you should read up, bro. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #102
if you believe that the SAK as it exists today Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #119
Yes, it's a lot richer than it otherwise would be due geek tragedy Jun 2013 #121
Ahh . . . we've been involved in coups, overthrows, invasions and assassinations . . . brush Jun 2013 #40
Let's take a trip in the way back machine cali Jun 2013 #10
Let's also drop the idea that every terrorist attack geek tragedy Jun 2013 #23
sorry, I don't think in your simple binary manner. cali Jun 2013 #24
US foreign policy is the ONLY cause y'all ever discuss. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #29
you mean aside from abortion, state politics, ALEC and a dozen other topics? cali Jun 2013 #36
ALEC and abortion cause terrorism? nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #43
Well, sure many of them wear american logo T-shirts, listen to american music, watch american media. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #70
Bottom line, they are saying we deserved it. treestar Jun 2013 #106
Life is much simpler when one state/country is to blame geek tragedy Jun 2013 #108
And most people in those very states, and the Islamic religion treestar Jun 2013 #110
It's left-wing Orientalism--the thinking is that geek tragedy Jun 2013 #112
Cali, you are on it. brush Jun 2013 #41
thank you kindly, but I doubt I'm educating anyone or that I'm qualified cali Jun 2013 #44
Okay. But keep posting anyway. ny brush Jun 2013 #63
Are you really so unaware . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #12
So 911 was our fault because we buy Saudi oil. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #26
again with the simple, binary "thought process" cali Jun 2013 #27
What causes terror attacks against the US other than evil geek tragedy Jun 2013 #32
The installation of US troops on Saudi soil in the early 90s is what sparked bin Laden >>>> Roland99 Jun 2013 #88
Yes. But, that wasn't an invasion, or abuse, or anything of the sort. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #89
It was in preparation for a war. I do believe that qualifies Roland99 Jun 2013 #91
Heh, someone willing to go out there geek tragedy Jun 2013 #92
So it was reasonable and fair of bin Laden to plan and carry out the 911 attacks? treestar Jun 2013 #107
another one that just doesn't get it...not even worth this reply Roland99 Jun 2013 #117
S.A. wanted us there treestar Jun 2013 #124
a straw man argument ? really? bowens43 Jun 2013 #103
People have claimed already geek tragedy Jun 2013 #104
9/11...9/11...9/11.... The Link Jun 2013 #3
you know it stupidicus Jun 2013 #8
LIBERAL FANTASY LAND (REALLY ?)- ruffburr Jun 2013 #9
9/11 WAS a terrorist attack FiveGoodMen Jun 2013 #90
K&R That's the bottom line, right there. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #11
I have a serious question: cali Jun 2013 #15
I think mainly it's just fear. If one is reasonably intelligent and well informed, you can't help Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #19
I think that's a good answer. Thanks. cali Jun 2013 #20
YVW. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #95
Well reasoned post brush Jun 2013 #46
TYVM. It is appreciated. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #96
Blind partisanship? The Founding Fathers feared party politics across the board. From Jefferson to sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #21
Not prescient, they had just seen it all before. We have this idea that we are more Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #94
True, they had seen it all before and clearly understood human nature. And that is why they worked sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #115
Well said, cali! n/t markpkessinger Jun 2013 #13
They used to call us "Blame America First-ers" Kurovski Jun 2013 #16
They hate us because of our actions. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #18
Here here! nt brush Jun 2013 #47
Spot on! Myrina Jun 2013 #50
Your first paragraph is not a fair description treestar Jun 2013 #109
We have continually been meddling in the Middle East LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #113
What about reality? treestar Jun 2013 #114
I have to confess that one reason I react LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #116
This is the truth! a la izquierda Jun 2013 #22
thank you for a little bit of common sense Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #25
K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #28
A simple truth that will forever go unheeded. marmar Jun 2013 #30
Do you really think all bad people would disappear? What about Dr. Tiller's killer? graham4anything Jun 2013 #31
no and I said no such thing. and cali Jun 2013 #34
we agree to disagree on everything but "After Midnight". graham4anything Jun 2013 #35
I like brush Jun 2013 #37
it's either that, or our current approach Enrique Jun 2013 #38
It's always made perfect sense to me. K&R nt. polly7 Jun 2013 #39
It's not easy to stop Islamists from viewing the US as the Great Satan. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #42
I doubt that is as much of a factor as our history of cali Jun 2013 #45
So why did they bomb the World Trade Center in 1993? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #49
I didn't realize the World Trade Center was in Hollywood ... Myrina Jun 2013 #51
LOL. Per your sig line, I'll leave it at that (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #53
Of course. Didn't our interference in the mideast far far pre-date 1993? cali Jun 2013 #57
We should have let Saddam keep Kuwait? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #59
I think you need to read a wee bit more about that cali Jun 2013 #60
Yep, that's it, in a nutshell. Myrina Jun 2013 #48
Excellent post malaise Jun 2013 #52
K&R Bryn Jun 2013 #54
Sorry, not possible. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #55
+1 Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #56
They only care about protecting transnational corporate interests. We mean nothing to them, Zorra Jun 2013 #58
K&R Change has come Jun 2013 #61
I'll buy THIS for a dollar! nt Dreamer Tatum Jun 2013 #62
If anyone should be claiming "Mission Accomplished" it would be Al Queda. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #64
Looks like they got our freedomz after all! n/t leftstreet Jun 2013 #67
True. If as Junior said "they hate our freedom", then their beef with us has been put to rest. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #71
DURec leftstreet Jun 2013 #68
Can't have an empire without a police state kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #69
You got it. It's not about protecting anything but profits. Killing for dollars. raouldukelives Jun 2013 #72
We cause more than we cure, for sure . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #76
K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #77
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #83
But Cali, this has mostly been our modus operandi since the national security state was created indepat Jun 2013 #85
"Be a little more even handed with Israel/Palestine." WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #86
That won't help us against the attacks by religious fundamentalists pnwmom Jun 2013 #87
and what about the role that the U.S. played in the rise and formation cali Jun 2013 #98
We're stuck living with that huge mistake. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #118
K&R woo me with science Jun 2013 #93
One thing I really love about the reaction to the NSA revelations? Spider Jerusalem Jun 2013 #97
yes that is what bugs me. people are ok with this if they think americans are exempt, the boilerbabe Jun 2013 #100
So simple. nt Jasana Jun 2013 #99
After 911, 80% of the populace wanted to do just that treestar Jun 2013 #105
Thanks Cali. Puglover Jun 2013 #111
Thanks for the link, clearer thoughts from before "ground zero" cooled enough to walk on dougolat Jun 2013 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jun 2013 #122
What Cali said! nt Ilsa Jun 2013 #123
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